betocool Posted October 29, 2023 Posted October 29, 2023 5 hours ago, oztheatre said: How about the Gibson Les Pablo for only 899 this is really messed up! What The F*ck was that?!
Ooogh Posted October 29, 2023 Posted October 29, 2023 Not a guitar, a new pedal. Very natural full sound, sounds great. Fuller and sweeter than the Boss DD8 but for a studio the DD8 brings an awful lot of goodies to the table , very good for Pink Floydian effects. A bargain at this price. https://theschoollocker.com.au/boss-digital-delay-dd8?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIm7C0j_2aggMV4NYWBR2ArgEeEAQYBSABEgJ2JvD_BwE 2
oztheatre Posted October 29, 2023 Posted October 29, 2023 3 hours ago, betocool said: What The F*ck was that?! They got the hoes though! haha it's so messed up.. Check out the mercedes glide master video and the new ford mundo ads on his channel. Pretty disturbing material!
betocool Posted October 30, 2023 Posted October 30, 2023 On 29/10/2023 at 5:54 PM, Ooogh said: Not a guitar, a new pedal. Very natural full sound, sounds great. Fuller and sweeter than the Boss DD8 but for a studio the DD8 brings an awful lot of goodies to the table , very good for Pink Floydian effects. A bargain at this price. https://theschoollocker.com.au/boss-digital-delay-dd8?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIm7C0j_2aggMV4NYWBR2ArgEeEAQYBSABEgJ2JvD_BwE But that's not the pedal in the link? Cheers, Alberto
Tweaky Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 Well I don't know what to think. I ordered my Harley Benton ChRickenbacker 12 string copy from Thormann in Germany on Thursday, and got a email on Sunday saying it is on the way, should be here on 7th NOV [But they have sent it with UPS - maybe I will never see it at all ] The thing is, I'm now not exactly sure what I will be getting. I clicked on the link to the Thormann website last night to check a detail about the guitar [as I want to change the tail piece for a different one], and noticed that the RB-612 C in Sunbusrt had had a very sudden design change with the bridge. They have changed it from a Rickenbacker type bridge to a Gibson Tune o Matic type. I'm sure when I ordered it still had the Rickenbacker type bridge......The RB-612 C in Black still has that type of bridge on the website. Guess I won't find out until it arrives. One thing is for certain is that the change of bridge is going to throw the aesthetics out IMHO, it will look quite a bit less than a Rickenbacker with a Tune O Matic bridge fitted. 1
Ooogh Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 17 hours ago, betocool said: But that's not the pedal in the link? Cheers, Alberto Indeed it isn’t betocool. I put the link in for the Boss DD8 because that is a give away price , $120 off so under $200 is an excellent buy. 1
oztheatre Posted November 1, 2023 Posted November 1, 2023 On 31/10/2023 at 11:48 AM, Tweaky said: Well I don't know what to think. I ordered my Harley Benton ChRickenbacker 12 string copy from Thormann in Germany on Thursday, and got a email on Sunday saying it is on the way, should be here on 7th NOV [But they have sent it with UPS - maybe I will never see it at all ] The thing is, I'm now not exactly sure what I will be getting. I clicked on the link to the Thormann website last night to check a detail about the guitar [as I want to change the tail piece for a different one], and noticed that the RB-612 C in Sunbusrt had had a very sudden design change with the bridge. They have changed it from a Rickenbacker type bridge to a Gibson Tune o Matic type. I'm sure when I ordered it still had the Rickenbacker type bridge......The RB-612 C in Black still has that type of bridge on the website. Guess I won't find out until it arrives. One thing is for certain is that the change of bridge is going to throw the aesthetics out IMHO, it will look quite a bit less than a Rickenbacker with a Tune O Matic bridge fitted. You have me very interested in this guitar! The reviews are quite amazing. Let us know what turns up. Wonder why they did that? A cost thing?
Tweaky Posted November 1, 2023 Posted November 1, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, oztheatre said: You have me very interested in this guitar! The reviews are quite amazing. Let us know what turns up. Wonder why they did that? A cost thing? It might of been a cost thing, then again they might have thought that a lot of people would like to have a bridge that had 12 individual bridge saddles. I joined the Harley Benton Club - Forum yesterday and asked when they changed it, but have yet to get a reply. https://theharleybentonclub.proboards.com/ It seems easier to source one of those than one for a RIC type bridge, although having done a search for both types, sure there are a few Tune O Matic 12 string bridge assemblies available, but the cheapest uses pressed metal [crap] and the others are expensive in themselves [both in the AUS$170-225 with out lousy exchange rate ] , but the REAL shock is when you go to check the postage cost......a unbelievable rip off.... with one bridge, the shipping cost to Aus worked out more than the price of the bridge!, more than twice as much as it cost to have the guitar shipped from Germany. From what I have read from Rickenbacker owners, the bridge is the lesser of two design problems with the 12 string. The biggest PITA is the tailpiece, the ones on the Harley Benton, most true Rickenbakers, and other Ric copies, is that the tail pieces only have holes for 6 strings, so you have to run 2 strings through the one hole. A total PITA to restring apparently, there a videos showing how a Rickenbacker should be restrung......In the 2nd video below, Dave Gregory says he re-stings with the Bass/heavier strings going one way, and the lighter/treble strings going the other way. But that is with a RICK fitted with the square Trapieze Tailpiece. After reading a few forums, the HARP tailpiece seems to be the answer.......I'd order one now, but I don't know if I need to order the mounting bracket as well until I see if I can use the one on the Harley Benton first. https://www.winfieldvintage.com/harp-tailpieces There is the Trapeze tailpiece, as fitted on the George Harrison and Tom Petty Rics. https://www.winfieldvintage.com/trapeze-tailpieces But if you watch the video below with Dave Gregory from XTC [ a huge long term Rick 12 string using knowledge base ], you will hear than he has broken countless strings at the ball end, when using this type of bridge. If you don't want the expense, bother, or just want to wing it until you can gather funds to get a real 12 string. Try to get yourself a couple of different gauge LANSTRON Sharkfin picks, and use the serrated edge to strum with.[any copy of this shape pick will do the same] http://www.sharkfin.eu/ IMHO, if trying on a 6 string, use the lightest gauge pick available to sound like a 12 string Edited November 1, 2023 by Tweaky 1
Gregg Froman Posted November 1, 2023 Posted November 1, 2023 (edited) This is my Rickenbacker 1993+ 12 String. Love it!! Also have a Rickenbacker 381V69 6 String. Edited November 2, 2023 by Gregg Froman 4
Tweaky Posted November 2, 2023 Posted November 2, 2023 On 02/11/2023 at 2:13 AM, Gregg Froman said: This is my Rickenbacker 1993+ 12 String. Love it!! Also have a Rickenbacker 381V69 6 String. I suppose out of all the Rickenbacker 12 string variations, the 1993+ or the 660/12 would be the ones to get, as they have the wider neck [1/8" -4mm ] and Trapeze tailpiece. I've been reading at the Ricksource forum that the cast metal "R" type tailpiece fitted to other 12 string models have a nasty habit of exploding apart, and so do their replacements. I think it has happened to some 6 string owners as well.........Apparently the tailpiece is cast metal, and QC isn't that great before they are sent off to get chrome plated https://www.rickresource.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=417836 1
Tweaky Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 (edited) I got a unexpected knock on my front door at 1.15pm today, something had arrived 3-4 days earlier than I was expecting them, nice surprise. All I can say id WOW in regards to my dealings with Harley Benton, this company would have to be the most organized, professional and so on top of everything, especially communication and shipping. I mean I ordered the guitar from Thormann in Germany at 11.00am Sydney time on the 26th Oct, they had the guitar on its way by the 28th, and I receive it on the 3rd of Nov [It was due on the 7th or 8th], basically 1 week. The guitar looks spot on, apart from a tiny little ding [not a chip thankfully] at the top of the fretboard, directly beneath the nut under the G Strings [I tried to take a photo but its so slight you can barely see it], I can easily get it out with a wet rag and a soldering iron come string change time. The frets are all well cut/dressed, but could do with a little bit of rounding of the fret edges, they are equal to any frets you would find on a Fender/Yamaha in the $1500-2500 range, put it that way. The nut is really well cut, and TBH I think the overall setup can't really be improved on, the action is spot on.......It sure puts the setups you find on OOTB Epiphones /Fenders to shame, and a lot of Gibsons if being totally honest. I must of got one of the first models to come with the new Tune O Matic bridge pieces, now I've gotten it in my hands, this bridge does tend to make the guitar look less cluttered, as the RIC type bridge is around 2.5 times as wide. Will I change it to a Tune O Matic with 12 individual intonation saddles ? I don't know, I guess it will depend just how far out from perfect intonation I find jarring, there is something to be said about a 12 string guitar than isn't exactly intonated correctly, it sort of adds to the Jangle if you know what I mean. The body is surprisingly small, about 1/5th smaller than a Strat, and the whole guitar weighs 3.2kg [my Strat weighs 800g more] The balance is good when rested on your leg, with a slight bias towards the neck [hardly surprising with 12 tuners ] I've played Gibson SG's that have been more neck heavy than this 12 string. I haven't had the guitar long enough to comment on the quality of the tuners. I checked for any play in them and I couldn't detect any, but I have bought KIT guitars that have had similar looking tuners [they were probably a bit worse than these ones] I'll probably end up changing them with two sets of Gotoh SG301-04 'Grover Style' tuners [or similar], which would cost me about $150. The tailpiece will get changed eventually for a HARP type one, sourced from the USA [US $90 including end holding clamp ]. Although that will depend on how much they intend to charge for shipping it to Australia, some of these guys in the USA think we a morons with some of the ridiculous shipping charges they try on. EDIT:I just went and checked the price of the shipping, the Tailpiece and clamp cost US $90 and they want US$75 to ship it via UPS. With currency conversion, and GST, its hitting very close to AUS $300 Its a bad joke. https://www.winfieldvintage.com/product-page/12-string-harp-tailpiece I just can't be arsed stuffing around trying to get two strings into one string channel on the original one fitted. So, bottom line, would I purchase one of these guitars again ? Yes I would, they are a HUGE Bargain, and with a few easily changed parts will give you 90% of that Rick jangle at around a Aus$5k to 6k saving at least. Plus with the neck being wider than your average Rickebacker 12 string, they will be a darn sight easier to play as well. Edited November 3, 2023 by Tweaky 5
Tweaky Posted November 11, 2023 Posted November 11, 2023 7 minutes ago, oztheatre said: Amazing! Even though he has it in open tuning, being able to play chords on it is very impressive. Not cheap guitars either, from US $5600 to $6500 and I expect a bit of a long wait as well. https://www.morningstarglassguitars.com/ Although you can order a glass neck alone that will fit Fender Strat / Tele / Jazzmaster neck joints for US $1650 https://www.morningstarglassguitars.com/product-page/morningstar-glass-guitar-neck-25-5 1
oztheatre Posted November 11, 2023 Posted November 11, 2023 47 minutes ago, Tweaky said: Even though he has it in open tuning, being able to play chords on it is very impressive. Not cheap guitars either, from US $5600 to $6500 and I expect a bit of a long wait as well. https://www.morningstarglassguitars.com/ Although you can order a glass neck alone that will fit Fender Strat / Tele / Jazzmaster neck joints for US $1650 https://www.morningstarglassguitars.com/product-page/morningstar-glass-guitar-neck-25-5 Out of my price range. But looks and sounds really quite unique. You wouldn't want to knock or drop one of those either. Thanks for your review on your latest addition too, they sound like incredible value for money.
Tweaky Posted November 11, 2023 Posted November 11, 2023 19 minutes ago, oztheatre said: Out of my price range. But looks and sounds really quite unique. You wouldn't want to knock or drop one of those either. Thanks for your review on your latest addition too, they sound like incredible value for money. Yeah, breakage or chipping would always be at the back of your mind. How he gets the frets to stay on the fretboard is the big ask, and if they are prone to falling off, as when looking at the "About" page on his website you can see him to be lining up and gluing the frets into place, if you look at the next space to be fretted, the glass fretboard appears to have been etched. I agree the Harley Benton is very good value for what you get. This appears to be the case on nearly every guitar they make [some of the Ultra cheap Telecasters pickups are incredibly microphonic apparently - so avoid those ] but the rest all seem to get the thumbs up. I was momentarily interested in their electric Mandolin, lucky I searched for a review first. It appears the bridge saddles can't be moved far enough back to intonate the instrument, and you can't move the Telecaster like bridge because the strings come up through the body.....somebody goofed up with that design.
oztheatre Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 10 hours ago, Tweaky said: Yeah, breakage or chipping would always be at the back of your mind. How he gets the frets to stay on the fretboard is the big ask, and if they are prone to falling off, as when looking at the "About" page on his website you can see him to be lining up and gluing the frets into place, if you look at the next space to be fretted, the glass fretboard appears to have been etched. I agree the Harley Benton is very good value for what you get. This appears to be the case on nearly every guitar they make [some of the Ultra cheap Telecasters pickups are incredibly microphonic apparently - so avoid those ] but the rest all seem to get the thumbs up. I was momentarily interested in their electric Mandolin, lucky I searched for a review first. It appears the bridge saddles can't be moved far enough back to intonate the instrument, and you can't move the Telecaster like bridge because the strings come up through the body.....somebody goofed up with that design. How do they etch the glass? Yep it's a good value 12 string I'm going to buy one for sure. So the reason for the 12 point harp tail piece is because you have 12 tuners at the other end? Makes sense to keep them separated too, I'm not sure how string breakages go on a 12 string? Do you break 2 strings at the same time? It has to be better for intonation right too right? Yeah postage, that's a complete rort! We used to have a thing called book rate at aust post which was cheaper but people were sending other flat things like dvd and vhs tapes so they did away with it. Have you seen this guy play? In the next Steve Vai guitar camp thing he does.
Tweaky Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 (edited) 57 minutes ago, oztheatre said: How do they etch the glass? Yep it's a good value 12 string I'm going to buy one for sure. So the reason for the 12 point harp tail piece is because you have 12 tuners at the other end? Makes sense to keep them separated too, I'm not sure how string breakages go on a 12 string? Do you break 2 strings at the same time? It has to be better for intonation right too right? They could etch the glass with Hydrofluoric acid or with tools. The reason I want to to swap the tailpiece to one with 12 individual string ferrels/holes is for two reasons when it comes to restringing the guitar. When it come to restringing a 12 string you don't take all 12 strings off, then replace them, the best way to do it , both to keep a decent amount of tension on the neck, and to stop confusion when putting on new strings, is to remove the 6 main "Bass" strings first, then replace them, then do the same with the 3 lighter "Treble" strings. If you have a tailpiece with two strings emanating from one hole/groove, the string you want to remove can be held in place at the tailpiece by the one still strung up, which is a total PITA. This can happen both ways, both when removing a string and when trying to thread the new one back into the same hole/groove. Having 12 separate string holes/grooves in the tailpiece removes that problem entirely. Not having two strings having to share the same hole / groove, also cuts down on the chance of breaking a string when restringing, which is something Dave Gregory from XTC says can happen quite a lot when he restrings his Rickenbacker The one with the Trapieze tailpiece that looks like this below Those types of tailpieces look like they have a rather sharp edge on them, so any pressure at the strings ball end is going to be at a acute angle, which is just asking for trouble IMHO. Edited November 12, 2023 by Tweaky
Tweaky Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 (edited) I was just doing a search and found somebody at the Squier forum had posted about the exact same problem with changing strings on their Harley Benton 12 string. You can see the exact problem from the photos [I love the photo of the Red finger, Ouch! ] and his description of his efforts to change strings. [You can see why I want to avoid this total PITA problem] Somebody chipped in with post about a much cheaper [Aus $105 ]and elegant solution to the proposed 12 string HARP tailpiece swap I've posted about above, and I've found there are stock of it in Australia. https://www.realparts.com.au/bridges-tailpieces/trapeze-tailpieces/12-string-trapeze-tailpiece.html As you can see in the photos, the actual bar part of the tailpiece that holds the strings is held on to the tailpiece by two end nuts, so is the one on the much shorter Harley Benton tailpiece, so all one has to do is unscrew the bar from both tailpieces and swap them over, easy peasy, problem solved. Most 12 string guitars, both Acoustic and Electric, string the guitar with the lighter treble set of strings coming first, as in light E string then heavy bass E string etc. The Harley Benton 12 string is strung this way. Rickenbacker guitars are unique in that they reverse that, as in putting the heavy bass E string first, then the lighter E treble, doing this does change the sound somewhat, so if wanting to get the Harley Benton guitar to sound more like a Rickenbacker [well it's shaped to look like one, so you might as well ] your going to have to change the nut, so the new one is cut to have the heavier bass strings first. Oztheatre, if you do actually get one of these Harley Benton 12 strings let me know........If you order a Black one, you might get one with the Rickenbacker type bridge on it, not the Tune O Matic, as that's what was showing on the website last I looked [probably only until stock runs out and they too get the Tune O Matic bridge change] You will never find any replacement nuts to suit, so that means making one. I've got all the needed tools and a couple of bigger sized bone nut blanks, so I'll have a go at making a few now I have the Harley Benton to take nut measurements off. I had a close look at the saddles on the Tune O Matic bridge on my HB 12 string [6 saddles, two string notches on each saddle] and the notches seem to be cut at a pretty even depth [on my guitar at least], so they might not not to be changed if you swap the strings around to a Rickenbacker type setup. Even then, if one notch on any particular bridge saddle is cut slightly bigger than the other, its just a matter of turning the bridge saddles around the opposite way in the bridge assembly to accommodate the change. If still having action problems or fret buzz caused by the bridge, its easy enough to get replacement Tune O Matic bridge saddles and cut the string notches perfectly, rather than to have to replace the whole bridge.....but TBH I doubt it would come to that.....depends how the bridge saddles on you guitar turn out to be notched. Edited November 12, 2023 by Tweaky
Tweaky Posted November 17, 2023 Posted November 17, 2023 Just a heads up that would be of interest if you are into Home Recording via a PC or MAC. I got a email today telling me Native Instruments has started it Black Friday discounts.[I see Manny's Music in Australia is showing the same discounts] https://www.izotope.com/en/deals/deals-native?utm_term=cs-ni-50-off-komplete&utm_campaign=cross-sell&utm_medium=email&utm_source=braze&utm_content=PO&lid=o4m47tq6fs2q&utm_id=f374109e-2d06-4ea7-8881-c4856e6ce372 50% off all of the Komplete 14 packages [ Standard, Ultimate and Collectors editions all included Kontact 7 and Guitar Rig Pro ], as well as discounts on individual software This is a great deal, I think they have usually only given a max of 30% off. If you just want recently released Guitar Rig Pro 7, that is currently AUS$225, usually AUS$300, review below. https://musictech.com/reviews/plug-ins/native-instruments-guitar-rig-7-pro-review/ I like that you can now add IR's [Impulse Response] from the like of Celestion [want to change your cabinets Green Backs to Blue or Cream backs, easy, just get the IR's from Celestion and load them] The link below lists each of the Komplete packages and shows the difference between them. https://sonicatlas.co/komplete-standard-vs-ultimate-vs-collectors-edition/ Standard would be all you would need for Rock EDM etc Ultimate gives additional stuff suitable for media content, with some orchestral. Collectors Edition gives you everything they have ever made, with more Orchestral stuff [individual string instruments] Choir, and interesting things like Lores. https://www.native-instruments.com/en/products/komplete/cinematic/lores/ OH BOY! As I've been write the above, I'm getting emails from all the software/Tech/Guitar companies telling me of Black Friday Deals. If Guitar Rig Pro 7 above doesn't float your boat, how about IK Multimedia's incredible deal [I use IK's MTM Active speakers in my Studio setup] This is the Amp/Cabinet Emulation software AC/DC has been using in the studio since it was released 20 years ago Available until NOV 30th, AmpliTube Max v2 and Tone Max bundled for UK 130 [AUS $250 ] or UK 80 [AUS $154] individually. https://www.ikmultimedia.com/news/?item_id=15281 What is ToneX and how is it different from AmpliTube you are asking [I know I was, so I looked it up ] IMHO unless you want to mic up and sample your own Guitar or Bass amps, ToneX is OTT for you. AmpliTube and TONEX are two different products using different technologies: AmpliTube is made using analog modeling technology while TONEX uses a new technology called AI machine modeling ( https://www.amplitube.com/ai ). While analog modeling simulates the behavior of the whole circuit of the amp - with all the knobs, switches, buttons and their interactions - AI machine modeling gives an ultra-realistic simulation of the rig with a specific knob settings. So it's not that one technology is "better" than the other, it depends of what the final user's needs are: full editing and customization versus accuracy in getting a specific sound. Using them together gives of course the best of both worlds and a super-powerful amp-sim system. The two products are also different because AmpliTube can simulate the entire set up used in guitar recording (multiple serial and parallel rigs combining amps, all type of stomp effects, post effects, cabinets and microphones, etc.. with full editing down to the single gear), while TONEX is dedicated to simulates just amp, cabinets and certain type of pedals (distortions, overdrive, fuzz, EQ, boost) in each of their combinations. However TONEX can be used inside AmpliTube, as a sub-system of amps and pedals, again to have the best of both worlds. AmpliTube review below https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/ik-multimedia-amplitube-5 ToneX software review. https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/ik-multimedia-amplitube-tonex Since the review of the ToneX software, IK multimedia bought out a ToneX pedal last March, review below...its still expensive currently AUS $760 https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/ik-multimedia-tonex-pedal https://www.mannys.com.au/ik-multimedia-amplitube-x-gear-tonex-ai-machine-modeling-pedal 1
Jake Posted November 18, 2023 Posted November 18, 2023 I always grab the Arturia and XLN Black Friday deals. Just upgraded my Arturia stuff, but I have the complete XLN drum stuff already. On the fence with NI still, although I have used their plugins and they are great.
Tweaky Posted November 18, 2023 Posted November 18, 2023 57 minutes ago, Jake said: I always grab the Arturia and XLN Black Friday deals. Just upgraded my Arturia stuff, but I have the complete XLN drum stuff already. On the fence with NI still, although I have used their plugins and they are great. I've had Arturia's V collection for a few years now, currently V9, I also have one of their controller keyboards, the Keylab Essential 61 MK 2 [current one is MK3], which is pretty good, but I wouldn't mind upgrading it to a the big Keylab 88 MkII. I had looked at getting a Native Instruments Kontrol S88, but when I went to have a look at one I noticed that they seemed cheap and nasty, build wise, the demo model had this horrible plonky noise when you pressed the keys down. I found out afterwards this a a well known problem with the Kontrol keyboard range after they have been played for a while.....They have a new MKIII version released a while back, I don't know if the problem still exists. I went and bit the bullet and bought the IK Multimedia Amplitube and ToneX bundle, even though its highly unlikely I will use the ToneX for sampling my own or mates amp & cabinets. The reason I bought the ToneX is because IK also has a addon pack for it called OS Legends, this sampled versions of 4 different Dumble overdrive amps, also a original Ibanez Tube Screamer and original Klon, these are different to the modeled amps and cabinets found in AmpliTube. While I was waiting for everything to download and install, I went onto YouTube, where I got a video popup from a company called The Crow Hill co. I'm thinking, Ok, this seems interesting, I'll watch it.....I'm very glad I did. https://www.youtube.com/@TheCrowHillCo The Crow Hill co is very new, and is headed by Christian Henson, who with Paul Thomson started of Spitfire Audio back in 2007 [ Henson quit Spitfire in Feb 2023 ] Spitfire Audio is the best known maker of high quality samples of Orchestral / Chamber / and Movie related sounds - I mean they have Hans Zimmer making percussion sample......Bloody expensive, but you get what you pay for. Anyway, The Crow Hill co is more of a group of people who make samples and provide them free, you just need to sign up. They only have one product that they charge for, and that is String Murmentations UK 149, which the video that I initially found out about this company was a demo of....I think its bloody amazing......I just need to sign up and then make sure I have enough HD space, they spend the UK149. https://thecrowhillcompany.com/ 2
Jake Posted November 18, 2023 Posted November 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, Tweaky said: I've had Arturia's V collection for a few years now, currently V9, I also have one of their controller keyboards, the Keylab Essential 61 MK 2 [current one is MK3], which is pretty good, but I wouldn't mind upgrading it to a the big Keylab 88 MkII. I had looked at getting a Native Instruments Kontrol S88, but when I went to have a look at one I noticed that they seemed cheap and nasty, build wise, the demo model had this horrible plonky noise when you pressed the keys down. I found out afterwards this a a well known problem with the Kontrol keyboard range after they have been played for a while.....They have a new MKIII version released a while back, I don't know if the problem still exists. I went and bit the bullet and bought the IK Multimedia Amplitube and ToneX bundle, even though its highly unlikely I will use the ToneX for sampling my own or mates amp & cabinets. The reason I bought the ToneX is because IK also has a addon pack for it called OS Legends, this sampled versions of 4 different Dumble overdrive amps, also a original Ibanez Tube Screamer and original Klon, these are different to the modeled amps and cabinets found in AmpliTube. While I was waiting for everything to download and install, I went onto YouTube, where I got a video popup from a company called The Crow Hill co. I'm thinking, Ok, this seems interesting, I'll watch it.....I'm very glad I did. https://www.youtube.com/@TheCrowHillCo The Crow Hill co is very new, and is headed by Christian Henson, who with Paul Thomson started of Spitfire Audio back in 2007 [ Henson quit Spitfire in Feb 2023 ] Spitfire Audio is the best known maker of high quality samples of Orchestral / Chamber / and Movie related sounds - I mean they have Hans Zimmer making percussion sample......Bloody expensive, but you get what you pay for. Anyway, The Crow Hill co is more of a group of people who make samples and provide them free, you just need to sign up. They only have one product that they charge for, and that is String Murmentations UK 149, which the video that I initially found out about this company was a demo of....I think its bloody amazing......I just need to sign up and then make sure I have enough HD space, they spend the UK149. https://thecrowhillcompany.com/ Thanks, Tweaky, I'll check it out. I have the Keylab 49 mkII, it's a wonderful piece of kit. It replaced a NI keyboard which was crap, having died under warranty and Musos let me upgrade to the Arturia. I can't really play keys but still wish I had the 88.
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