Apple Music Discussion Thread

[Chigurh]

On 04/07/2022 at 6:54 PM, powerav said:

Wow! A cool discovery. I am playing Apple Music lossless 2 channel via Volumio on a Raspberry PI to a dac. 
For a start it’s 16/44.1 and 24/48 from what you get in Apple TV with HDMI.

Sounds magical. Here are some screen shots of Volumio and Apple Music.

I'm listening to this album now. iPad Air > Auralic Altair G1 via usb. It sounds sublime, so dynamic! One of the best sounding recordings I have heard on Apple Music.

[betty boop]

23 hours ago, Lil Caesar said:

The only way is to tether your phone or iPad via the usb-c or lightning to usb 2 connector and into the back of a dac.  You won’t get full HRL out of Apple Music any other way.  Airplay2 is 16 bit/48kHz only.  Apple TV gives you 24 bit / 48 kHz but you have to use hdmi.

my astell and kern DAP will do apple music lossless.. so that is another way to go  

 

https://www.stereonet.com/forums/topic/319370-astell-kern-owners-thread/?do=findComment&comment=5823556

 

 

[neweskimo]

I have recently hooked up my ipad mini 6 with usb (c to b) to my Simaudio 280D Dac and cant get anything over 44.1 using apple lossless (and changing the settings on the Ipad for lossless sound etc).

 

Has anyone managed to get over 44.1 using apple music or do I need to use Tidal or other software to do this?

[figjam]

16 minutes ago, neweskimo said:

I have recently hooked up my ipad mini 6 with usb (c to b) to my Simaudio 280D Dac and cant get anything over 44.1 using apple lossless (and changing the settings on the Ipad for lossless sound etc).

 

Has anyone managed to get over 44.1 using apple music or do I need to use Tidal or other software to do this?

Yes, you need the apple A/V adapter, then go from the USB-A output of that to the USB-B input on the DAC. 

[Chigurh]

1 hour ago, neweskimo said:

I have recently hooked up my ipad mini 6 with usb (c to b) to my Simaudio 280D Dac and cant get anything over 44.1 using apple lossless (and changing the settings on the Ipad for lossless sound etc).

 

Has anyone managed to get over 44.1 using apple music or do I need to use Tidal or other software to do this?

Not all of the albums on Apple Music are hi-res. Actually most are just lossless. Try Golden Earring - Moontan (Remastered and expanded). It's 24/96 which is what my DAC tells me too. I'm using an iPad Air 4th gen and a plain old usb-c to b cable. No fancy A/V adapter.

[jbprophoto]

I use Apple Music and High Res Lossless exclusively with lots of playlists etc and I have many Folders and playlists for critical listening in super high res lossless.

I regularly play 24/96 but have a few folders of critical listening tracks with many in the 24/192 and even the odd track in 24/384.

Many of the older "classic artists" have been added to Apple Music in 24/96 or 24/192 

 

iPhone> Apple Music App > High Quality Low Jitter USB Cable > Topping D90SE DAC etc etc

[powerav]

A very good Dolby Atmos mix of this album.

[powerav]

Another absolute cracker

[powerav]

Make sure to download the latest Apple TV firmware 17.

There are reports of quite noticeable audio improvements to atmos audio for which I would have to agree.

[Hi-Fi Whipped]

On 24/9/2023 at 2:50 PM, powerav said:

Make sure to download the latest Apple TV firmware 17.

There are reports of quite noticeable audio improvements to atmos audio for which I would have to agree.

Hi Dan, what are your listening sources for Apple Music? You use Apple TV for Atmos, what about 2 channel stereo?

 

Im considering making the switch from Spotify to Apple TV because I want lossless + video content + Atmos which apart from Tidal I believe its the only streaming service that can do all three. Apple also do it better than Tidal at less cost.

[powerav]

5 hours ago, Hi-Fi Whipped said:

Hi Dan, what are your listening sources for Apple Music? You use Apple TV for Atmos, what about 2 channel stereo?

 

Im considering making the switch from Spotify to Apple TV because I want lossless + video content + Atmos which apart from Tidal I believe it’s the only streaming service that can do all three. Apple also do it better than Tidal at less cost.

Hey good to hear from you.

I use Apple TV for Atmos music.

For stereo I use a raspberry pi4 with Roon into a topping e10 dac into analog on INTEGRA 3.4 and March audio power amp into Maggie’s .7 and 2 svs pb1000 subs.

Stereo is far superior this way rather then Apple TV as that would have to use HDMI for stereo which I assume is the issue.

I was hoping the eversolo dm6 would do Dolby Atmos for Apple Music but it doesn’t look like it.

i made the switch from Spotify to Apple Music and couldn’t be happier as Apple Music lossless stereo on headphone or in the car sounds great.

The subscription to Apple Music for Dolby Atmos is worth it alone as the fun factor is huge an absolute must in my opinion if you have an Atmos home theatre set up, I don’t watch movies anymore as Atmos music is just so great.

 

[Hi-Fi Whipped]

5 minutes ago, powerav said:

Hey good to hear from you.

I use Apple TV for Atmos music.

For stereo I use a raspberry pi4 with Roon into a topping e10 dac into analog on INTEGRA 3.4 and March audio power amp into Maggie’s .7 and 2 svs pb1000 subs.

Stereo is far superior this way rather then Apple TV as that would have to use HDMI for stereo which I assume is the issue.

I was hoping the eversolo dm6 would do Dolby Atmos for Apple Music but it doesn’t look like it.

i made the switch from Spotify to Apple Music and couldn’t be happier as Apple Music lossless stereo on headphone or in the car sounds great.

The subscription to Apple Music for Dolby Atmos is worth it alone as the fun factor is huge an absolute must in my opinion if you have an Atmos home theatre set up, I don’t watch movies anymore as Atmos music is just so great.

 

yeh you too, thanks.

 

I think the versatility of Apple Music will probably get me over the line.

 

So Apple Music is compatible with Roon? I did some initial research earlier this week and didn't think it was.

[powerav]

1 minute ago, Hi-Fi Whipped said:

So Apple Music is compatible with Roon? I did some initial research earlier this week and didn't think it was.

No it’s not sorry, I still use Roon with my own files for stereo and the multichannel that I have .

[Hi-Fi Whipped]

2 minutes ago, powerav said:

No it’s not sorry, I still use Roon with my own files for stereo and the multichannel that I have .

ok thanks, so your Raspberry pi plays Apple Music from the native browser/app? you control it how?

 

Sorry seems like im going back to noob town because ive really only know Apple Music to be airplay friendly which takes away any hi-res playback FWIW.

[powerav]

6 minutes ago, Hi-Fi Whipped said:

ok thanks, so your Raspberry pi plays Apple Music from the native browser/app? you control it how?

No sorry again. I use the raspberry pi only for Roon and my own music on my NAS, no Apple Music here at all.

I really only use Apple Music on my main system for Apple Atmos Music through Apple TV.

 

[powerav]

Even this is just mega, mega fun.

[Hi-Fi Whipped]

3 minutes ago, powerav said:

Even this is just mega, mega fun.

Thanks, from a fun POV I noticed when you get the lyrics up you can turn off the vocals and enter karaoke mode. Not sure ill ever use it but could be fun at a party.

[powerav]

If anyone already has an Atmos setup in a room then for something like $200 for an Apple TV to play Dolby Atmos music is without a doubt the absolute best hifi deal ever. 

[powerav]

3 minutes ago, Hi-Fi Whipped said:

Thanks, from a fun POV I noticed when you get the lyrics up you can turn off the vocals and enter karaoke mode. Not sure ill ever use it but could be fun at a party.

With the latest gen of Apple TV you can set up your phone as a camera and have yourself on screen with fancy backdrops behind you…. Not for me

[powerav]

When you have this specialty stuff mixed by legends like Steven Wilson it just goes to another level of awesomeness 

[Grant Slack]

On 15/9/2023 at 3:12 PM, powerav said:

A very good Dolby Atmos mix of this album.

Hi Dan,

 

This Atmos mix doesn't seem to be labelled as Atmos (looking at your screenshot above)?

 

cheers

Grant

[powerav]

2 minutes ago, Grant Slack said:

Hi Dan,

 

This Atmos mix doesn't seem to be labelled as Atmos (looking at your screenshot above)?

 

cheers

Grant

It’s a common thing with these special edition releases where the first album tracks are atmos but all the extra stuff will not be. 
 

[Pragmatist]

On 28/08/2023 at 7:08 PM, jbprophoto said:

High Res Lossless exclusively with lots of playlists etc

Hi, somewhere you can recommend to source such playlists ?  OR how to filter search in Apple Music for high res ?

[jbprophoto]

1 hour ago, Pragmatist said:

Hi, somewhere you can recommend to source such playlists ?  OR how to filter search in Apple Music for high res ?

I regularly sit there and do searches for Hi Res / lossless / test / audiofile / or 24/192 etc and just see what comes up and save any playlists I like the sound of.....

[powerav]

This is the thread I use for Dolby Atmos releases 

https://www.quadraphonicquad.com/forums/threads/listening-to-in-dolby-atmos-streaming-via-tidal-apple-amazon.31491/page-434