Musical Paradise MP-T1 3500W Balanced Isolation Transformer

[MattyW]

Ok, I’ve been curious about this unit for some time and have finally bit the bullet and ordered one.

 

AU $969.64  11％ Off | Latest   MP-T1 3500W filter balance isolation transformer Power center, high-end power solution without dynamic compression
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mPRk1kE

 

It will be interesting to see how this affects sound, if at all. Considering my amp draws less than 100W and the new DAC only 12W I don’t see that it can harm dynamics in any way though i guess I’ll see.

 

I’m wondering whether my Crown XLS1002 which powers the woofers should be run off an unbalanced output seeing as it’s a class D amp? It could be injecting noise into the power supply as it would use a switching mode power supply.

Edited November 26, 2021 by MattyW

[tripitaka]

I'll be interested in this journey, Matty.

 

I spent about half that on a normal isotran, probably one of my sillier purchases, but Ive often wondered whether I'd have seen a clear benefit if I'd just gone for a balanced option at the outset.

[MattyW]

It may make no difference at all….. I’d have loved to get one of the Aurealis units but they never made it to market I believe.

[tripitaka]

13 hours ago, MattyW said:

It may make no difference at all….. I’d have loved to get one of the Aurealis units but they never made it to market I believe.

I think you've done well to sniff out this MP product as a quality alternative.

I've read enough positive reports about balanced power to suspect there is something to it, at least in some circumstances.

Agree leave out the Class D connections while you suss it all out

 

 

 

Edited November 27, 2021 by tripitaka

[Artnet]

14 hours ago, MattyW said:

….. I’d have loved to get one of the Aurealis units but they never made it to market I believe.

I asked Geoff about these a while back and for the Australian market a little to complecated to comply and sell here was my impression.

Keen to hear how you go with the MP.

[MattyW]

8 hours ago, Artnet said:

I asked Geoff about these a while back and for the Australian market a little to complecated to comply and sell here was my impression.

Keen to hear how you go with the MP.

Aye, it worked out far too expensive to be worthwhile given expected sales numbers. I wonder how many great products don’t get to market due to such considerations.  

Edited November 27, 2021 by MattyW

[MattyW]

Due for delivery on Friday.... Be interesting to see what it does.

[MattyW]

The balanced isolation transformer has an interesting effect. Smoother and more natural without any loss of detail with a slight rounding effect on the sound making things appear more three dimensional. I’ve not noticed any impairment of dynamics. Course it’s only been installed a few hours so no idea how things will change from here.

Edited December 7, 2021 by MattyW

[tripitaka]

On 07/12/2021 at 7:29 PM, MattyW said:

The balanced isolation transformer has an interesting effect. Smoother and more natural without any loss of detail with a slight rounding effect on the sound making things appear more three dimensional. I’ve not noticed any impairment of dynamics. Course it’s only been installed a few hours so no idea how things will change from here.

So I guess that's a 'win'.

Is it powering just your digital front end and preamp, or power amps as well?

[MattyW]

47 minutes ago, tripitaka said:

So I guess that's a 'win'.

Is it powering just your digital front end and preamp, or power amps as well?

Its powering everything currently.

[MattyW]

I've separate power cables coming (it uses US sockets) so I can get away from using a single power board and have the DAC and power amps isolated from one another. Also a thicker power cord been made up by @andyr which should help 

[MattyW]

Well, I got a very nice uplift in sound with Andy’s short power cable. Likewise getting rid of the powerboard and running the OCXO clock, DDC, DAC and 2x power amps directly from the MP-T1 have a very nice in improvement also. I still have a power board running off an unbalanced output with a Furman AC210 AE in line for my TV, Tortuga Pre, media PC and various other non critical components though overall a very nice improvement.

[Gav]

Curious about this unit,  Dose it have any CONS ?    IE    hummm  

[MattyW]

21 hours ago, Gav said:

Curious about this unit,  Dose it have any CONS ?    IE    hummm  

No hum at all no. Probably the only con is it’s massive size and back breaking weight. I had to put feet on the side of mine and turn it sideways otherwise I just have no space for it.

 

It probably has better airflow this way as the holes for cooking are on each side. I do worry about the strength of the bolts holding the transformers with it sideways though.

Edited January 5, 2022 by MattyW

[Gav]

Oh dose it get quite hot ?

It has no dimensions  mentioned ?

 

There dose not appear to be alot of info on it ,  so Musical Paradise make this.

[MattyW]

Barely noticeable heat when touching the case actually. It’s about 30kg.

[Gav]

Were you able to get any more info on this product or the company is there any guarantee with the unit or dose one just take the risk?      , do you know if it is the same company that has the   Digital WCK RB Word Clock High Precision Rubidium atomic Clock Turntable External clock. 

 

Its just that I notice there seems to be another company using the musical paradise name.

 

Any way just curious at this stage 

[MattyW]

1 hour ago, Gav said:

Were you able to get any more info on this product or the company is there any guarantee with the unit or dose one just take the risk?      , do you know if it is the same company that has the   Digital WCK RB Word Clock High Precision Rubidium atomic Clock Turntable External clock. 

 

Its just that I notice there seems to be another company using the musical paradise name.

 

Any way just curious at this stage 

Considering the size and weight of the unit, and how you have to send defective units back to China for warranty it’s not really economical. So effectively no warranty. That said, it’s a balanced isolation transformer. What is there to go wrong?

 

I’ve noticed that atomic clock. Been curious about that a long time though seeing as I’ve no need to for an additional clock I won’t likely be buying it any time soon. If I end up in a situation where I need multiple clock outputs then it’s actually very competitively priced an it will be high up the list of choices.  

 

Could be any number of companies using the brand. It’s China after all.

Edited January 7, 2022 by MattyW

[Gav]

At that price point it is worth a shot especially as you have one and it is doing a good job, but at the moment holding back as with the Aquarius and the Purple Fuses my wallet is empty  haha

[MattyW]

There are way more upgrades net a bigger difference than this. Look at this when you’ve run out of upgrades.

[Gav]

Well the Aquarius  is sounding better and better , Aurealis silver coax  is 44 hours in now   ( what is the burn in for these ??)      and Tubes in Amps about 74 hours  in

[MattyW]

49 minutes ago, Gav said:

Well the Aquarius  is sounding better and better , Aurealis silver coax  is 44 hours in now   ( what is the burn in for these ??)      and Tubes in Amps about 74 hours  in

Is it the silver Duelund or the silver one he has listed on his site?

 

I usually find digital cables take about 2 weeks or so as a rule of thumb.

Edited January 7, 2022 by MattyW

[Gav]

1 hour ago, MattyW said:

Is it the silver Duelund or the silver one he has listed on his site?

 

I usually find digital cables take about 2 weeks or so as a rule of thumb.

 

It is the same as the custom one you had made so it is Silver Duelund  so 300 odd hours  ( yikes )

[MattyW]

41 minutes ago, Gav said:

 

It is the same as the custom one you had made so it is Silver Duelund  so 300 odd hours  ( yikes )

Even before burn in it should be sounding good. Spelling stuff is a bit like that. It’s never bad, but gets better with use. The same as their caps.

[Gav]

Apologies for off topic.

 

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