Lazz Posted June 20, 2022 Posted June 20, 2022 Wondering if anyone has any experience with good quality cables that have a 2-1 connectors where the power is separated from the other plug? as opposed to just having the standard usb style in regards to sound quality.
Guest Posted June 20, 2022 Posted June 20, 2022 Not sure I understand the question but I will take a guess at explaining. The standard USB cable carries 5V on one of the wires. A few DACs are powered this way and some DACs check for this, will not work without it. However, other DACs have no need for the 5V and some users believe that using a cable without the 5V wire sounds better. Hence, there are USB cables with option of with and without 5V. Sometimes, the cables look different, with the 5V option having an extra wire. There are a few where the 5V wire has a separate output connector. Whether a particular USB cable sounds better is a different matter and can lead to heated debate. Best to try for yourself...
POV Posted June 20, 2022 Posted June 20, 2022 Not 100% clear on your objective, but if it’s to isolate your USB from noisy PC power then IFI have a solution: You can use one of these: https://addictedtoaudio.com.au/collections/ifi-audio/products/ifi-idefender-usb-ground-isolator with one of these: https://addictedtoaudio.com.au/collections/ifi-audio/products/ifi-audio-ipower-mk2-low-noise-power-supply Lots of folks report positive experiences with adding this where utilising a DAC that is taking power via USB.
Plasmod3 Posted June 21, 2022 Posted June 21, 2022 11 hours ago, Lazz said: Wondering if anyone has any experience with good quality cables that have a 2-1 connectors where the power is separated from the other plug? as opposed to just having the standard usb style in regards to sound quality. yes seperating the 5v works well - the ground wire less so . habst and goebel for eg are cables that do these. experimentation on my end shows that if you seperate the power to the signal it does sound better with more details. some dacs for eg does not need the power line or if they need it just a short signal in the beginning to initiate a handshake then nothing else needed after. most happy to help if you will like to try out some usb cables:-)
Grizzly Posted June 21, 2022 Posted June 21, 2022 12 hours ago, Lazz said: Wondering if anyone has any experience with good quality cables that have a 2-1 connectors where the power is separated from the other plug? as opposed to just having the standard usb style in regards to sound quality. G'day Leon- these are locally made and I discerned a distinct improvement when I first added the Konvertible Lite (sic) to my setup years ago. https://www.elijahaudio.com/products.html
MattyW Posted June 21, 2022 Posted June 21, 2022 Yup, Curious Cables Evolved does that, ditto the Gothic Audio Semperfi "The Outsider"...... I prefer the Gothic of the two in terms of sonics.
Lazz Posted June 21, 2022 Author Posted June 21, 2022 Thx guys. One maker of usb i was looking at and comparing these two cables. The ones mentioned above also seem interesting. https://www.highendcableshop.com/product/tubulus-concentus-usb-cable/ https://www.highendcableshop.com/product/tubulus-argentus-usb-cable-dual-head/
POV Posted June 21, 2022 Posted June 21, 2022 Just now, Lazz said: Thx guys. One maker of usb i was looking at and comparing these two cables. The ones mentioned above also seem interesting. https://www.highendcableshop.com/product/tubulus-concentus-usb-cable/ https://www.highendcableshop.com/product/tubulus-argentus-usb-cable-dual-head/ What exactly is it that you're trying to achieve out of interest?
POV Posted June 21, 2022 Posted June 21, 2022 Yes I guess that's a given. Sorry I meant technically, as in what is the equipment you are working with here? Is your DAC powered over USB or have a separate power supply?
Lazz Posted June 21, 2022 Author Posted June 21, 2022 Diy pc to iFi audio iPurifier2 Noise Isolator to Wyred 4 Sound recovery to Icron Ranger usb extender to Singxer su-1 with outboard LPS to Denafrips Terminator. I'm no expert in relation to all the gizmos, but i was following a forum and with each addition seemed to make an improvement. In saying that I am going to one day pull everything and go pc to terminator and listen to any change. The Icron is supposed to achieve galvanic isolation. I am very happy with the sound of my digital, just trying to push the limits re; the usb cable query. A pic of the mess. lol.
POV Posted June 21, 2022 Posted June 21, 2022 Yeah I started to follow that signal chain but am too tired. I will have a look tomorrow. 1
Guest Posted June 22, 2022 Posted June 22, 2022 21 hours ago, Lazz said: Just get the best sound quality. What puzzles me is why you are not considering the Denafrips Gaia DDC? It was designed for the Terminator. With the money you have spent to date, and plan to spend, on the various bits and pieces, you could have purchased the Gaia. A big plus is simplying the setup. You will have fewer items to juggle and may find it easier to achieve better SQ .
Lazz Posted June 22, 2022 Author Posted June 22, 2022 The Gaia is way more than I have spent thus far and I had this set up way before the Gaia was released. Perhaps one day I may try the Gaia. Thx
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