Dingbat Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 I don't about there being a revival for new CDs, but second hand CDs are definitely a good way to find decent stuff to listen to.
stereo coffee Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 22 minutes ago, Dingbat said: I don't about there being a revival for new CDs, but second hand CDs are definitely a good way to find decent stuff to listen to. Two other resources to guide you, are Wikipedia , and AllMusic reviews. as at a glance you can research an artists entire life of providing music, as well with some releases hear 20 second samples. 1
GregWormald Posted July 5, 2023 Posted July 5, 2023 14 hours ago, stereo coffee said: Two other resources to guide you, are Wikipedia , and AllMusic reviews. as at a glance you can research an artists entire life of providing music, as well with some releases hear 20 second samples. AllMusic seems to be deleting the samples so I use Spotify free for that. The reviews are like all reviews, interesting and sometimes relevant to my tastes.
Blooloo Posted July 10, 2023 Posted July 10, 2023 (edited) Interestingly Darko gives some very good reasons in one of his videos for his continued love of the CD format. He's recently moved to Lisbon and frequents a number of 2nd hand CD shops there - picks up many cheap bargains (of course his taste in music may not be ours but still...). One of the reasons for keeping/getting certain CDs is that there are a lot that just aren't on any of the streaming services and probably never will be. I have about 400 CDs and about the same in LPs, with many of them no longer available in their original medium and definitely not on streaming. All the CDs have been ripped to WAV and all the LPs have been transcoded to FLAC, de-clicked and de-noised. I still play them (less so vinyl now) but have the knowledge that they are at least backed up and stored in a couple of digital locations. I still buy the odd CD 2nd hand from a local shop but I will not fork out ridiculous sums for new vinyl. For me it's mostly streaming via Tidal and Qobuz plus streaming my rips and hi-res downloads from the NAS - just easier. Every now and then I enjoy the jewel-case or cardboard sleeve ritual and have a good time doing so. Edited July 10, 2023 by Blooloo 5
Blooloo Posted July 10, 2023 Posted July 10, 2023 On 22/06/2023 at 4:34 PM, Steff said: Brick and mortar store second hand CDs are reasonably priced and worth browsing. On the discogs website, and on ebay, I have found that the market is distorted by excessive mail and handling costs. Perhaps with a resurgent market for silver discs the postage costs will fall in line in the long term. If that prediction in fact eventuates. Yes, I've stopped buying off Discogs and eBay for the while as shipment costs to Tasmania can cost twice as much (or more) than the CD. Perhaps it's the sellers I've been using or my tastes in music but I get the feeling that people are just being greedy. No matter, I have a huge collection of music in many formats so if I don't get something it's no big deal now. 2
Dingbat Posted July 10, 2023 Posted July 10, 2023 Yes, second hand CD shops are a handy way to find albums at a modest price which just aren't available on streaming or otherwise cannot be bought in Hi-Res digital. I myself have no interest in streaming, I want to get the source album, whether in digital download or on CD. My earliest CDs were bought a couple of decades ago. I'm pretty sure there are a few CDs of mine which are so obscure you can't find the music anywhere online or on streaming. I have a Streamer (fed from a Macbook Pro) and CD player. Sometimes I play the digital, other times the CD, it depends on what mood I'm in. I've ripped nearly all my CDs. There are a couple which are stubborn and don't want to be ripped, so I can only play them on CD. 2
rantan Posted July 10, 2023 Posted July 10, 2023 CDs are the most convenient and easy format to deliver the music. There need no firmware updates, no apps, no need for a tablet or phone to control, no need for WiFi or ethernet connection,no drop outs etc etc. Just insert disc, press play and relax for the duration of the album. I also love my vinyl but the cost of new ( or even used ) albums has become prohibitive in my case but I love it too much to give up on it. Between vinyl and CD you can always find the album you want. I have recently been toying with the possibility of streaming ( again ) but since I don't have $5K+ to spend the results are very underwhelming compared to my TT and CD player. They are simply foolproof and maybe I am a fool but they work for me. 13 2
Kristian Kristiansen Posted July 26, 2023 Posted July 26, 2023 I literally only own a CD player for the Join the Dots - b-sides and rarities box set by The Cure, as it's not on any of the streamers and a vinyl box set would be about 12LPs (which I would happily purchase) 3
cafe67 Posted July 26, 2023 Author Posted July 26, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Kristian Kristiansen said: I literally only own a CD player for the Join the Dots - b-sides and rarities box set by The Cure, as it's not on any of the streamers and a vinyl box set would be about 12LPs (which I would happily purchase) You record it to flac or wav so you could stream it? Great boxset btw Edited July 26, 2023 by cafe67 1
mbd Posted July 26, 2023 Posted July 26, 2023 Agreed - this is a great CD box set to have. (Favourite track is probably "The Exploding Boy") I believe it's also streamable via Qobuz, in case you happen to subscribe to them. 2
Kristian Kristiansen Posted July 26, 2023 Posted July 26, 2023 36 minutes ago, cafe67 said: You record it to flac or wav so you could stream it? Great boxset btw Dude I haven't had a CD burner for more than a decade - and the last CD player I had was in my previous car... but an audio engineer i know was upgrading his kit and threw a Stanton C400 my way for $50... - I still have a thousand odd CDs in the spare room, but aside from Kruder and Dorfmeister's magnificent K+D sessions... i really only play Join the Dots 1
Kristian Kristiansen Posted July 26, 2023 Posted July 26, 2023 36 minutes ago, mbd said: Agreed - this is a great CD box set to have. (Favourite track is probably "The Exploding Boy") I believe it's also streamable via Qobuz, in case you happen to subscribe to them. interesting - i thought a few of the songs were unstreamable due to licensing... def not on Tidal or Spotify... but even though I'm not much of a fan of CDs, having a physical copy of this is essential to me. I am a bit of a Cure tragic. Always have been. Always will be. I have all their albums on vinyl... well except their last one, because it's hot garbage
davewantsmoore Posted July 26, 2023 Posted July 26, 2023 Quote The answer might be that streaming is not a “place,” but a barrage of constant options that many fans find less optimal when you’re in the mood to actually concentrate and listen. Does everyone have ADHD these days? ... or? Maybe I just love albums so much that I can manage to resist the "temptation" that others can't.... although I am getting more and more into super-ultra-mega-playlists as I get older and older. 1
davewantsmoore Posted July 26, 2023 Posted July 26, 2023 35 minutes ago, Kristian Kristiansen said: but aside from Kruder and Dorfmeister's magnificent K+D sessions. Blasphemy. This belongs on vinyl. 1
Kristian Kristiansen Posted July 26, 2023 Posted July 26, 2023 15 minutes ago, davewantsmoore said: Blasphemy. This belongs on vinyl. I know! it's on my list, trust me! 1
vinilink Posted July 26, 2023 Posted July 26, 2023 1 hour ago, davewantsmoore said: Does everyone have ADHD these days? ... or? https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/massive-problem-with-street-diagnoses-of-adhd-as-condition-skyrockets-across-australia/news-story/6aaffa59744d373ecf128004bbeae9c3
audiofeline Posted July 26, 2023 Posted July 26, 2023 ADHD is under-diagnosed, especially in adults. And many adults who might benefit from the diagnosis can't afford the cost (often $2K now). However, as suggested in the linked article, ADHD (and other diagnosis in the DSM) is over-diagnosed by the public who don't have an understanding of interpreting the difference in symptoms between sub-clinical levels and clinical levels.
mafeking Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 my rega apollo r stopped reading cds' about a year ago, used an old rotel but bought and installed a new laser to the rega last week. the rega through the same system sounds better to me, more bass, less harsh on the top end. i use cornwall speakers so top end smoothness is important the rega is not top end and i use a cutest dac how does the rega read more digital information or read it better than the old rotel i use the digital out to the qutest, this sounds better than the fibre optical out
mattd2308 Posted September 9, 2023 Posted September 9, 2023 On 10/07/2023 at 6:28 PM, rantan said: CDs are the most convenient and easy format to deliver the music. There need no firmware updates, no apps, no need for a tablet or phone to control, no need for WiFi or ethernet connection,no drop outs etc etc. Just insert disc, press play and relax for the duration of the album. I also love my vinyl but the cost of new ( or even used ) albums has become prohibitive in my case but I love it too much to give up on it. Between vinyl and CD you can always find the album you want. I have recently been toying with the possibility of streaming ( again ) but since I don't have $5K+ to spend the results are very underwhelming compared to my TT and CD player. They are simply foolproof and maybe I am a fool but they work for me. One of the best posts i've read, yep me also, thought of it, but disregarded similar to your views. Just simplistic 2 channel stereo. CD and Vinyl. 1
Dingbat Posted September 9, 2023 Posted September 9, 2023 22 hours ago, mafeking said: how does the rega read more digital information or read it better than the old rotel i use the digital out to the qutest, this sounds better than the fibre optical out It's interesting how some people use the CD as a transport, and theoretically digital is digital, but I see people reporting on various differences when using it as a transport like this. As for me, I was toying with an experiment of running my CD player (Naim CDX2) into my streamer/DAC (Naim NDS), but the cost of the cable to do it justice, even second hand, has put me off this. If I just use it a couple of times, no point. I have had the CDX2 bare into an SN2 (integrated), using default cables, all the way to my current setup, with an XPS Power Supply, feeding into separates amplification of 282/SC/300DR, and with upgraded cabling. What I found is that the difference is astounding. It sounds like a totally different beast, it actually sounds really sophisticated. And it renders the music a bit differently to the NDS. So for me in my setup, the CDX2 is still worth it as its own standalone source using its internal DAC. And it's been able to improve, and keep improving as I upgraded everything else around it. On another note, from my experience, it's also very easy for the CDX2 to sound like crap, so I can understand if people heard this player and thought it was rubbish.
mafeking Posted September 9, 2023 Posted September 9, 2023 cd as transport i like the qutest, and cd's sound good in my system. is all the signal from cd's digital? i have read some where that its not the cable connects are something i haven't toyed with 3 hours ago, Dingbat said: It's interesting how some people use the CD as a transport, and theoretically digital is digital, but I see people reporting on various differences when using it as a transport like this. As for me, I was toying with an experiment of running my CD player (Naim CDX2) into my streamer/DAC (Naim NDS), but the cost of the cable to do it justice, even second hand, has put me off this. If I just use it a couple of times, no point. I have had the CDX2 bare into an SN2 (integrated), using default cables, all the way to my current setup, with an XPS Power Supply, feeding into separates amplification of 282/SC/300DR, and with upgraded cabling. What I found is that the difference is astounding. It sounds like a totally different beast, it actually sounds really sophisticated. And it renders the music a bit differently to the NDS. So for me in my setup, the CDX2 is still worth it as its own standalone source using its internal DAC. And it's been able to improve, and keep improving as I upgraded everything else around it. On another note, from my experience, it's also very easy for the CDX2 to sound like crap, so I can understand if people heard this player and thought it was rubbish.
bob_m_54 Posted September 9, 2023 Posted September 9, 2023 3 hours ago, mafeking said: is all the signal from cd's digital? i have read some where that its not If you're talking about the player: All the signal from Digital Outputs is Digital. All the signal from the Analog Outputs is Analog.. If you're talking about the actual CD: All the data is digitally encoded.. Hope that clears it up for you 1
mafeking Posted September 10, 2023 Posted September 10, 2023 then i suppose the type of laser assembly used creates differences in the amount of digital information read by the player On 09/09/2023 at 9:07 PM, bob_m_54 said: If you're talking about the player: All the signal from Digital Outputs is Digital. All the signal from the Analog Outputs is Analog.. If you're talking about the actual CD: All the data is digitally encoded.. Hope that clears it up for you
bob_m_54 Posted September 11, 2023 Posted September 11, 2023 12 hours ago, mafeking said: then i suppose the type of laser assembly used creates differences in the amount of digital information read by the player Yes the "not working so well" type don't read data as well a the "working well type" But the difference is obvious. The former will suffer from skips and glitches, and may not even play the CD at all. The latter will play the music just fine..
mafeking Posted September 11, 2023 Posted September 11, 2023 i ran an older rotel player until i got the rega fixed using the digital out to external dac. the difference in sound between the two is noticable 5 hours ago, bob_m_54 said: Yes the "not working so well" type don't read data as well a the "working well type" But the difference is obvious. The former will suffer from skips and glitches, and may not even play the CD at all. The latter will play the music just fine..
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