caminperth Posted October 14, 2013 Posted October 14, 2013 I've recently acquired an Xindak power cable, however it's unfortunately a US plug. I'd like to covert to an AU plug, but I can't seem to find too many options - any suggestions would be appreciated..
kczar01 Posted October 14, 2013 Posted October 14, 2013 Possibly contact Cam from Krispy re a new Furutech plug? Regards Kyle
Willco Posted October 14, 2013 Posted October 14, 2013 (edited) Get the Aus fitting Martin Kaiser -German made-- from MainsRUS in the Uk--prompt and priced right-- for state of the art -and price get Krispy's Furutech's Willco http://www.mains-cables-r-us.co.uk/5-mains-products#/manufacturer-martin_kaiser Edited October 14, 2013 by Willco 2
pete_mac Posted October 14, 2013 Posted October 14, 2013 Depends now much you want to spend. At the bottom end of the price range, the Clipsal 1439SHD for under $10, although they won't accept really thick wire. Cam @ Krispy Audio can supply you with a Furutech for $120: http://www.krispyaudio.com.au/products/Furutech-FI%252dAU3112G-Gold-power-connector.html
pete_mac Posted October 14, 2013 Posted October 14, 2013 (edited) Get the Aus fitting Martin Kaiser -German made-- from MainsRUS in the Uk--prompt and priced right-- for state of the art -and price get Krispy's Furutech's Willco http://www.mains-cables-r-us.co.uk/5-mains-products#/manufacturer-martin_kaiser I've used those Martin Kaisers on my DIY Belden 19364 power cables. Not bad, and currently on special according to the website! They were £15 when I last bought some, so they are good buying at £7. Might need to get me some more for future use. Edited October 14, 2013 by pete_mac
Guest Mr Thorens Posted October 20, 2013 Posted October 20, 2013 (edited) I have some experience with all of the following. Forgive my non technical descriptions. Clipsal 1439SHD Furutech FI-AU3112AG Martin Kaiser Silver Plated AU plug Chinese AU plug from eBay Only the Furutech and Chinese plugs will accept cable of more than 12mm diameter. It might be the case that you'll need either of these. The Chinese plug is gold plated. It isn't really AU standard. It does fit the AU socket as it is similar to the CCC China socket but not perfect. It works OK but is a bit loose (only a bit) and doesn't meet AU electrical standards that require a section of the plug "prongs" to be black insulator coated nearest to the plug to prevent little fingers getting electrocuted. Works OK much cheaper alternative but at your own risk. I have used the Clipsal and MK with Belden 19364 (small diameter cable than the fat stuff) with acceptable results. The Belden is tight to get into the Clipsal but fits. Tricky to mount into the strain relief but possible. With his uou have a legal plug. The MK has a bit more room at the inlet, however the cable clamp inside is very tight and the wire clamps inside barely fit 14AWG cable. The inside of the MK, whilst silver plated, has limited gauge of the actual connectors and limits power. The Clipsal is superior in this regard. Much preferred to me. As for the sound: Furutech - best. Detailed, dynamic, not bright, slightly warm. No harshness. Good power. No restriction on current. Chinese - not as good as Furutech but only $12 vs $120. Acceptable (and the only) alternative for large cables. Still has a good clean sound just a bit less powerful and deep. A bit thinner sounding and slightly colder and more grain. I myself much prefer the Furutech. I couldn't compromise with the sound. Clipsal - acceptable good sound for the Belden 19364 cable. Nothing wrong with it. The only plug other than Furutech that is really to AU electrical standards. This is important. MK - depends on application. Acceptable but a bit brighter than the Clipsal for a source (CDP) does add detail and air compared with stuff you buy at Mitre 10. For a preamp or power amp, not that suitable. Sounds thin and lacks bottom end and power. I hope this helps. A good source of plugs and advice is JJ Acoustics in Melbourne. No affiliation. Edited October 20, 2013 by Mr Thorens
Saxon Hall Posted October 20, 2013 Posted October 20, 2013 Those Ebay Chinese plugs are pointless. The Pins are spaced differently to the Australian standard so they are a pain to push into an outlet. Just buy any cheap Chinese USB charger for a couple of bucks and you will see how bad they are. A real trap because superficially the pins look OK but just a millimetre either way and it throws everything out. BTW some of the local cable makers also use Clipsal's 56P310 plug with good results. Here is an example http://www.rkcable.com.au/RKCABLE15.htm
Guest Mr Thorens Posted October 20, 2013 Posted October 20, 2013 I haven't had that problem with Chinese plugs, the bigger Clipsal is a good suggestion though. Much better to meet AU standards.
Saxon Hall Posted October 20, 2013 Posted October 20, 2013 I haven't had that problem with Chinese plugs, the bigger Clipsal is a good suggestion though. Much better to meet AU standards. It's a lucky dip. If you get a plug made in China with the spacing to suit Australia then at least they will fit in the socket correctly. If you get a Chinese domestic market version then you will have problems. The standard Australian pin configuration is unusual and very few other countries use it except for China. The Chinese pins are also thinner and slightly longer so a good fit is not guaranteed. Sort of defeats the purpose of upgrading a Power Cord if you cannot guarantee a good connection.
firefly0071 Posted October 20, 2013 Posted October 20, 2013 Those Ebay Chinese plugs are pointless. The Pins are spaced differently to the Australian standard so they are a pain to push into an outlet. Just buy any cheap Chinese USB charger for a couple of bucks and you will see how bad they are. A real trap because superficially the pins look OK but just a millimetre either way and it throws everything out. BTW some of the local cable makers also use Clipsal's 56P310 plug with good results. Here is an example http://www.rkcable.com.au/RKCABLE15.htm I have two RK cables. The Clipsal plug is large. Works on my cable and fits perfectly. RK Cable, based in Melbourne, do meet Oz standards.
Guest Mr Thorens Posted October 20, 2013 Posted October 20, 2013 Just to note the maximum cable entry size for the Clipsal 56P310 is 10.6mm, according to Clipsal spec sheet.
Jventer Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 I've recently acquired an Xindak power cable, however it's unfortunately a US plug. I'd like to covert to an AU plug, but I can't seem to find too many options - any suggestions would be appreciated.. image.jpg Buy a PW-1 Audio Grade L ine Conditioner or similar. Used you may pick it up for say $120. It will accept lots of plugs, US, Chinese, Australian and hopefully conditions the power too. 1
georgehifi Posted October 23, 2013 Posted October 23, 2013 Just get a good quality one from an electrical wholesaler. Like this one, no need to spend any more. http://www.jrt.com.au/products/PLUG-TOP-EXTENTION-POLYCARBONATE-FOR-ORDINARY-DUTY-FLEX-10A-250V-INSULATED-PINS-TRANSPARENT_CLI1439STR_93172.html Cheers George 1
DoggieHowser Posted October 23, 2013 Posted October 23, 2013 I've recently acquired an Xindak power cable, however it's unfortunately a US plug. I'd like to covert to an AU plug, but I can't seem to find too many options - any suggestions would be appreciated..image.jpg Buy a PW-1 Audio Grade L ine Conditioner or similar. Used you may pick it up for say $120. It will accept lots of plugs, US, Chinese, Australian and hopefully conditions the power too. The problem with these country compatible distributors is that the live and neutral polarity are swapped if you combine Australian (or UK) with US plugs.
Jventer Posted October 23, 2013 Posted October 23, 2013 The problem with these country compatible distributors is that the live and neutral polarity are swapped if you combine Australian (or UK) with US plugs. I agree, important. I get an electrician (friend) to swop the wires on the us plugs.
WhakPak Posted October 23, 2013 Posted October 23, 2013 The problem with these country compatible distributors is that the live and neutral polarity are swapped if you combine Australian (or UK) with US plugs. So you mean the live and neutral are "crossed over" between upstream and downstream connectors, i.e. Within the cable?
Jventer Posted October 23, 2013 Posted October 23, 2013 So you mean the live and neutral are "crossed over" between upstream and downstream connectors, i.e. Within the cable? Yes
caminperth Posted November 2, 2013 Author Posted November 2, 2013 Thanks for all the replies! Does the polarity actually make a difference as it's AC? Otherwise wouldn't using US to AU adapters cause issues? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
DoggieHowser Posted November 2, 2013 Posted November 2, 2013 I can't be sure of Aus-US adaptors but there are correct polarity adaptors for US-UK converters even if they aren't common. If you use an Australian polarity plug from the wall to a US plug distributor, the polarity is still maintained because on the female IEC connector, the polarity is the same. It is only on the wall plug where the neutral and live are swapped. As for performance... that's up for debate (considering the mob's out for anyone who claims that power conditioners can make a difference ). But at the very least, with the live wire swapped, it means the fuse inside is now connected to neutral.
caminperth Posted November 2, 2013 Author Posted November 2, 2013 Reason for the polarity question is in the photo below.. White is ground, both active & neutral are red.. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
DoggieHowser Posted November 2, 2013 Posted November 2, 2013 (edited) Reason for the polarity question is in the photo below.. White is ground, both active & neutral are red.. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk This might help But for Australian plugs: You will need a multimeter to identify which red cable is live and which is neutral based on the female IEC connector end. Edited November 2, 2013 by DoggieHowser
caminperth Posted November 2, 2013 Author Posted November 2, 2013 It does help very much. Thanks for that! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Guest Multidimension Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 A few points: Most "audiophile" power cables are illegal in NSW (at least). Household insurance is voided by using them. None of them sound any different to the normal legal and certified with an imprint on the sheath cable you get from Bunnings or Turks. Fancy power cables still deliver the very same dirty mains from the wall socket as cheap ones. Neutral = earth. You must not inadvertently swap active with neutral! The fuse inside your equipment needs to be connected to Active - not Earth! http://sound.westhost.com/cables-p4.htm#power
rocky500 Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 (edited) This might help But for Australian plugs: You will need a multimeter to identify which red cable is live and which is neutral based on the female IEC connector end. I think this pic is wrong for for the female end for Australia. I thought you should be able to plug them in together(bend them around as if you about to plug them in to each other) and that how it is wired. They match up. The pic you have I think is the USA way with the active and neutral oposite to AU? I am pretty sure it was mentioned in another thread that way. Yes just checked with a multimeter and this is how my Australian cables are wired that I buy locally. Edited November 7, 2013 by rocky500
Dolphy Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 Just get a good quality one from an electrical wholesaler. Like this one, no need to spend any more. http://www.jrt.com.au/products/PLUG-TOP-EXTENTION-POLYCARBONATE-FOR-ORDINARY-DUTY-FLEX-10A-250V-INSULATED-PINS-TRANSPARENT_CLI1439STR_93172.html Cheers George George.....do you know what the corresponding IEC plug is? I have 5 meters of Belden 19364 lying around that I haven't used because the MK plugs were too tight to secure properly. I'd appreciate if you could post the link too....cheers!
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