Rockford Posted February 11, 2023 Posted February 11, 2023 (edited) Taken from a FS ad pic, I quite like the concept, do they have a name for this type of plug/connector? Can't seem to see anything from Google Images matching it, so am not sure if they are custom ones. I like spades in that they come up underneath to get closer to the unit but also the ease of plugging of a banana. Plenty of right angle ones, but nothing quite like this. Edited February 11, 2023 by Rockford
ray4410 Posted February 12, 2023 Posted February 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Rockford said: Taken from a FS ad pic, I quite like the concept, do they have a name for this type of plug/connector? Can't seem to see anything from Google Images matching it, so am not sure if they are custom ones. I like spades in that they come up underneath to get closer to the unit but also the ease of plugging of a banana. Plenty of right angle ones, but nothing quite like this. wbt 0610 banana plugs,there are a few knock offs that are a lot cheaper but not the same quality 1 1
audiofeline Posted February 22, 2023 Posted February 22, 2023 And the cables are Kimber Kable. WBT products are excellent quality, but you pay for it in $ but the sound quality is maintained (unlike the knock-offs). I don't recognise the banana sockets on the amp. The knobs look easy to turn, but would a spade fit behind them?
075Congo Posted April 14, 2023 Posted April 14, 2023 The connectors are Binding Posts from Vienna Acoustic loudspeakers They accept spade connectors as well....nice looking design produced in house for all their loudspeaker range. 1
SonicArt Posted April 14, 2023 Posted April 14, 2023 Too much metal and plastic for my liking, the multicontact copper shell banana like I use are imho the next best thing to no plug. No screws is the only downside for those who cannot solder or have no one who can solder for them. 2
andyr Posted April 16, 2023 Posted April 16, 2023 On 14/04/2023 at 8:25 PM, SonicArt said: Too much metal and plastic for my liking, the multicontact copper shell banana like I use are imho the next best thing to no plug. Agreed - that's what I've been using for 20 years. I would actually say better than no plug (ie. bare wire) - as with heatshrink over the wire-plug solder join ... any bare wire present can't tarnish like wire without a plug will. 1
ray4410 Posted April 16, 2023 Posted April 16, 2023 10 minutes ago, andyr said: Agreed - that's what I've been using for 20 years. I would actually say better than no plug (ie. bare wire) - as with heatshrink over the wire-plug solder join ... any bare wire present can't tarnish like wire without a plug will. just recently replaced some pretty pricey plugs on some well respected australian made speaker cables with mark's multi contact banana plugs(silver soldered and heat shrinked)well worth the small outlay and effort
075Congo Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 I have Mark's Banana Plugs on my Sonic Art Ebony Speaker cables.....the best banana connector available , giving excellent contact. Currently $39 for 4 connectors plus postage 1
vinilink Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 (edited) On 16/04/2023 at 10:47 AM, andyr said: Agreed - that's what I've been using for 20 years. I would actually say better than no plug (ie. bare wire) - as with heatshrink over the wire-plug solder join ... any bare wire present can't tarnish like wire without a plug will. If it is not too much trouble and if you don't mind taking a photo as I can't picture it as what it look like? TIA. Edited May 14, 2023 by vinilink
SonicArt Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 https://www.sonicartaudio.com/estore/index.php?main_page=popup_image&pID=56
andyr Posted May 14, 2023 Posted May 14, 2023 6 hours ago, vinilink said: If it is not too much trouble and if you don't mind taking a photo as I can't picture it as what it look like? TIA. 2 hours ago, SonicArt said: https://www.sonicartaudio.com/estore/index.php?main_page=popup_image&pID=56 ^ ^ ^ That's the one. Made by Multi-Contact (a Swiss firm). Made of beryllium copper. I buy mine from RS Components. 1
audiofeline Posted June 6, 2023 Posted June 6, 2023 On 14/05/2023 at 8:03 PM, SonicArt said: https://www.sonicartaudio.com/estore/index.php?main_page=popup_image&pID=56 OK, I've been inspired by this thread (and @andyr's endorsement) to order a set of these. I've never used this style before, and would appreciate advice on soldering the wire onto them. I would have tended to insert the wire and try to solder it inside the cylinder. But I note the hook on the top, should the wire be soldered into the curve of it? Also, any advantage to using silver solder for the job, or is normal (lead-based) solder better? And a pic to look at, easier to see than from the quoted link!
SonicArt Posted June 6, 2023 Posted June 6, 2023 26 minutes ago, audiofeline said: I've never used this style before, and would appreciate advice on soldering the wire onto them. Ok, first up solder, using a high quality solder with silver content is beneficial as it flows very well, I use Cardas quad eutectic solder for all my cables and bench work, it is a lead based solder but I like using it and try not to sniff the fumes too much With that said a standard 60/40 will work fine if you have copper cable. Where to solder it, well the tab is there so that the plugs can be piggybacked if needed, for example biwire speaker cable where the owner wants to keep the cables as two separate sets, using the tab on one set allows the other set to plug into the back of the first banana, and the pair will plug into the amp neatly. I do this myself. If you want a really good connection and you are only single wiring, then you can wrap the copper around the plug or around the tab tightly, then solder it. 1
075Congo Posted June 16, 2023 Posted June 16, 2023 Just looking at the KIMBER KABLE ULTRA PLATE BANANA plugs.........been in the market place for ages........fantastic connectors for a ultra secure connection. At $25 AUD a pair with Kimber Heatshrink and some solder they are not outrageous pricewise.
SonicArt Posted June 16, 2023 Posted June 16, 2023 they are nickel plated though, not the first choice in plating. they are beryllium copper spring sections but the plating kills it for me.
muon* Posted June 16, 2023 Posted June 16, 2023 (edited) Maybe try this, solder after crimping tab onto wire, crimping can be done with pointy nose pliers maybe. Just and idea. Edited June 16, 2023 by muon*
SonicArt Posted June 16, 2023 Posted June 16, 2023 The copper being beryllium is very hard, I haven't tried to bend it, will check that out tomorrow It may simply snap off.
bob_m_54 Posted June 17, 2023 Posted June 17, 2023 There is a pdf that shows how those type of banana plugs are usually soldered here: https://www.staubli.com/content/dam/spot/TM_MA133-fr.pdf The tab is used as the soldering connection.
andyr Posted June 17, 2023 Posted June 17, 2023 19 minutes ago, bob_m_54 said: The tab is used as the soldering connection. Of course it is - but Ian's suggestion of: ... is a great idea - providing a very robust connection. Except you solder the end of the wire after it has exited the barrel, to the tab (not crimp).
ray4410 Posted June 17, 2023 Posted June 17, 2023 and this is how they look with a bit of heat shrink 1
bob_m_54 Posted June 17, 2023 Posted June 17, 2023 10 minutes ago, andyr said: Of course it is - but Ian's suggestion of: ... is a great idea - providing a very robust connection. Except you solder the end of the wire after it has exited the barrel, to the tab (not crimp). Of course it is, as long as you don't want to stack connectors...
muon* Posted June 17, 2023 Posted June 17, 2023 I found re-terminating my foil cable worked out well with these. foil curved round the inside face for a large contact area, and the tab crimped inwards onto the foil to provide a solid connection on one edge before soldering.
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