MattyW Posted October 3, 2023 Posted October 3, 2023 Mine are from all over. Most are from Australia though others are from the UK, the US, Taiwan, China and goodness knows where else. So long as something performs to expectation and at or above the price paid I'm a happy camper. The best analog cables I've tried come from here in Queensland be it Lenehan FoilFlex or Aurealis Audio. 1
075Congo Posted October 3, 2023 Posted October 3, 2023 (edited) My last set of cables were Kimber Cables from the US......but I bought them from the Aussie Importer (JD Online) .......no more online importing for me.....support the local industry. Edited October 3, 2023 by 075Congo 1
audiofeline Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 Speaker cables and a few interconnects are genuine Kimber Kable, so manufactured in USA. A few Audio Principe/Grave Science + one Aurealis cables from Aust. One pair of RCA's hand made by a particular scammer in Brisbane - who knows where the rubbish cable inside came from, it's certainly not the rare American cable he represented it to be! Lots of cheap+nasty rca's probably originating from China. Some DIY interconnects made from USA Belden cable. One Sommer interconnect, I presume German made. 1
MattyW Posted October 11, 2023 Posted October 11, 2023 10 hours ago, audiofeline said: One pair of RCA's hand made by a particular scammer in Brisbane - who knows where the rubbish cable inside came from, it's certainly not the rare American cable he represented it to be! I believe I read somewhere Canare was used and stripped back so it couldn’t be identified. Canare is actually not bad sounding, but it’s cheap. If you replaced the connectors with relatively inexpensive Star Line you’d have decent cables there and after the rework probably better assembled too.
Misternavi Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 On 2/5/2023 at 1:58 PM, rsa17 said: No response. Just curious to get anybody's thoughts on if this is deceptive marketing? Letting me believe they are an American company with their products assembled in Europe but won't reveal place of manufacture. Except for a few, Isn't all the raw cable made in China or Taiwan? 1
MattyW Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Misternavi said: Except for a few, Isn't all the raw cable made in China or Taiwan? That’s my understanding….. I’ve heard all genuine “Litz” wire is made in Taiwan Edited October 13, 2023 by MattyW
klm Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, MattyW said: That’s my understanding….. I’ve heard all genuine “Litz” wire is made in Taiwan Cardas litz is American made and Audio Note litz is manufactured in Germany so perhaps not all litz is made in Taiwan. Edited October 13, 2023 by klm Auto correct
MattyW Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 Just now, klm said: Card as litz is American made and Audio Note litz is manufactured in Germany so perhaps not all litz is made in Taiwan. My understanding is Neotech they own the copyright for “Litz” though quite possible my memory is incorrect. It often is these days
klm Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 22 minutes ago, MattyW said: My understanding is Neotech they own the copyright for “Litz” though quite possible my memory is incorrect. It often is these days New England Wire from New Hampshire in the USA were manufacturing litz cable in 1898. Not sure how Neotech own the copyright. I don’t think the company was around in 1897.
MattyW Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 As I said, don’t rely on my memory hey. It’s fuzzy at best 1
audiofeline Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 On 12/10/2023 at 9:55 AM, MattyW said: [re interconnects made and sold by a Brisbane scammer] I believe I read somewhere Canare was used and stripped back so it couldn’t be identified. Canare is actually not bad sounding, but it’s cheap. If you replaced the connectors with relatively inexpensive Star Line you’d have decent cables there and after the rework probably better assembled too. It is hypothesised that he used Canare cable in the interconnects, but impossible to tell. I do know they sound horrible, it was my immediate reaction when I put them in my system. I lived with them for a number of weeks in case my initial reaction was misplaced, I didn't enjoy any music until I removed the scammer's cables out and put my previous cables back in. They were certainly nowhere near the sublime quality that describes cables made with the genuine exotic cables. And the quality of the scammer's RCA's were easily beaten by cheap+nasty cable. It is hypothesised that the scammer's speaker cables also used Canare, and I believe that these should sound OK (but not as good as the cable that was advertised). The scammer also used common electrical wire and other (probably cheap) wire in the speaker cables he sold, so in many cases they would never sound any good. It is good that this sorry saga is now in the past. 1
muon* Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 (edited) Deleted Oops! has been stated already. Edited October 14, 2023 by muon*
Misternavi Posted October 14, 2023 Posted October 14, 2023 6 hours ago, MattyW said: My understanding is Neotech they own the copyright for “Litz” though quite possible my memory is incorrect. It often is these days Owning copyright of litz wire is like saying someone owns the copyright of stranded wire. Could you be thinking of Ono Continuous Cast Copper? 1
Steever Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 Years ago, my father was concerned with the cost and provinence of good old QED 79 strand cables (a fine cable too) which many of his dealers were selling at the time. He ended up having something similar made here in Australia from Australian mined and drawn copper. It sounded as good (some would argue much better) as the QED product and gave dealers better margins. He called it Livelines. Long gone now.
klm Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 43 minutes ago, Steever said: Years ago, my father was concerned with the cost and provinence of good old QED 79 strand cables (a fine cable too) which many of his dealers were selling at the time. He ended up having something similar made here in Australia from Australian mined and drawn copper. It sounded as good (some would argue much better) as the QED product and gave dealers better margins. He called it Livelines. Long gone now. A cable identical to QED 79 strand was available from any lighting shop on the roll for $80 per 100 mtrs or part there of as it was a 12/24 volt outdoor lighting flex. The only difference were the QED markings and they were just an imprint in the plastic coating. The glory days before madness over ran us all. 1
rantan Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, klm said: The glory days before madness over ran us all. There is no glory in cheaping out when a few hundred $ can bring your system to heights that lamp wire lovers can only dream of. 1 1
klm Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, rantan said: There is no glory in cheaping out when a few hundred $ can bring your system to heights that lamp wire lovers can only dream of. I enjoy the madness, don’t get me wrong. My capital expenditure on cable and related paraphernalia causes quite incredulous conversations with insurance brokers so I’m well past the dreaming stage. Even my wife now considers it a non event. Time is a great healer. 2
Steever Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 4 hours ago, klm said: The glory days before madness over ran us all. Having climbed half way up the Nordost cable ladder, I’m sure I’m certifiable then. I know though, I’m not half as mad as some people here are .
075Congo Posted March 5, 2024 Posted March 5, 2024 Just upgraded my XLR Interconnects to Kimber Kable Select KS-1116 XLR's .......again made in Ogden UTAH.......bought locally from JD Audio Online in Sydney. Made a pair of FURUTECH TC21 power cords with Furutech Connectors. FURUTECH even have a YouTube video to take you through every step of the way. Idiot-proofing ! All Furutech wire is from Japan...connectors too. 2
bob_m_54 Posted March 5, 2024 Posted March 5, 2024 2 hours ago, 075Congo said: YouTube video to take you through every step of the way. Idiot-proofing hahaha, that cracks me up... idiot proofing DIY power cable construction... What could go wrong.. 1
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