cafe67 Posted May 10, 2023 Posted May 10, 2023 (edited) New the the market and seems to be impressing reviewers ( if that means anything to you) but the 2 reviews listed seem to be postive and the price is reasonable - especially people looking to upgrade from the node or similar. https://www.avforums.com/reviews/zidoo-eversolo-dmp-a6-zidoo.20790/ https://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2023/05/02/eversolo-dmp-a6-streamer-and-dac-review-insane/ $1300 here https://melbournechifiaudio.com/products/eversolo-dmp-a6-music-streamer-pre-order manual here http://music.eversolo.com/dmp/instruction/EVERSOLO-DMP-A6-User-Manual-v1.0.pdf Edited May 10, 2023 by cafe67 1
Braddles 63 Posted May 11, 2023 Posted May 11, 2023 (edited) Yes im in the market and my finger has been hovering over the "Buy now" button a few times....... But im also looking at the Gustard A26.....$1k ish more.....Probably a better dac ...... but not as good on the streaming / features side... Edited May 11, 2023 by Braddles 63
cafe67 Posted May 11, 2023 Author Posted May 11, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Braddles 63 said: Yes im in the market and my finger has been hovering over the "Buy now" button a few times....... But im also looking at the Gustard A26.....$1k ish more.....Probably a better dac ...... but not as good on the streaming / features side... Likewise Tho im Still wondering how much I would actually use it ? the dac in it seems good , but I could also use the dac on my x5 . A few people seem to think a remote would be nice? Having a quick the a26 seems to be a dac with streamer functions whereas a6 is streamer with a dac? Screen on the a6 is fancier but if you are mostly using an app to control it, perhaps not so important? Edited May 11, 2023 by cafe67
cafe67 Posted May 11, 2023 Author Posted May 11, 2023 2 hours ago, Braddles 63 said: Yes im in the market and my finger has been hovering over the "Buy now" button a few times....... But im also looking at the Gustard A26.....$1k ish more.....Probably a better dac ...... but not as good on the streaming / features side... one things i have just discovered which is a big plus for me is the ability to plug in an external USB cd-rom and rip tracks to the hard drive 1
Steff Posted May 11, 2023 Posted May 11, 2023 All kinds of early praise are being heaped on the Eversolo, it will be interesting to see how actual end users experience the dac/streamer - since none to few eversolos have currently been put through the motions by the paying public. Certainly one risk: hype generating confirmation bias. - - - Perhaps as a side note, Steve Huff strikes one as the foremost sales bro' online: the insecure customer loves nothing better than a knowledgeable & supportive elder. And sure, the stuff he reviews is often high end, one would not expect a negative review. Then again, the number of times one has seen Huff proclaim that he has found yet another "reference" pinnacle leaves one puzzled: did all the other gear deserve all the high and mighty praise if it gets replaced within a few months? (where did the DeVille speakers go now that the Focal have entered into the system?) Frankly, no matter how often Huff explains that he purchases gear on his own dime, the manufacturers would not send him anything to review if he didn't respond with industry-adjacent sales speak. (apologies if this sidetracks too far.) 6 2
rantan Posted May 11, 2023 Posted May 11, 2023 (edited) I have been on the fence about streaming for a long time now, but this one has genuine appeal. I could never get interested in the Node N 130 and the Cambridge MXN 10 has no screen or manual controls of any kind. There is also absolutely NO harm in the fact that it also looks great and reading about the quality of the user interface really helps things along as well. This one seems to tick every box I require and my finger has been known to hover over the "buy now " button for some time Edited May 11, 2023 by rantan 2
rantan Posted May 11, 2023 Posted May 11, 2023 38 minutes ago, Steff said: it will be interesting to see how actual end users experience the dac/stream Could not agree more. However there is very little ( if any ) competition at this price point and aall it really has to better is the Node N130 and the Cambridge MXN and while both are worthy,neither are a compelling proposition so how bad can this be? I always take reviews with a pinch of salt but conceptually at the very least, the Eversolo looks compelling. IOW it would need to be an actual POS for it not to be a genuine consideration. There really is a dearth of streamer/dacs at affordable prices and there are a lot of people who cannot afford $4-6K for a Lumen and a DAC as well 1
cafe67 Posted May 11, 2023 Author Posted May 11, 2023 Even those crazy kids at ASR seem to like it https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/eversolo-dmp-a6-streamer-review.44198/ 1 2
Hydrology Posted May 11, 2023 Posted May 11, 2023 The problem I find with these "swiss army knife" products is not the quality they may offer, its the after sales support that either the manufacturer, distributor and/or dealer may offer. Make no mistake about it, these are more complex products penetrating the hi-fi market than what has come before. A product like this will live and die by its software and I could imagine the amount of problems people will discover (and they will) will be across every conceivable issue imaginable. And then you have to consider the end user - not everybody is a hifi geek who writes their own line of code and builds their own speakers - unfortunately some end users cant be saved from themselves, so some of these aforementioned problems will be blamed on the product, when in fact the user is the one with the problem. A prickly predicament to be in... 7
Hydrology Posted May 11, 2023 Posted May 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, cafe67 said: Even those crazy kids at ASR seem to like it https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/eversolo-dmp-a6-streamer-review.44198/ I refuse to click on links to that site, but I'm sure the term "Giant Killer" will be used (if not already)... 2 1
cafe67 Posted May 11, 2023 Author Posted May 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Steff said: All kinds of early praise are being heaped on the Eversolo, it will be interesting to see how actual end users experience the dac/streamer - since none to few eversolos have currently been put through the motions by the paying public. Certainly one risk: hype generating confirmation bias. - - - Perhaps as a side note, Steve Huff strikes one as the foremost sales bro' online: Yep I agree with what your saying there and at the moment there aren’t a lot of reviews around for it. the avforum review did seem a little more balanced and less hype? likewise the ASR one regards Dave
cafe67 Posted May 11, 2023 Author Posted May 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hydrology said: I refuse to click on links to that site, but I'm sure the term "Giant Killer" will be used (if not already)... Lol I usually find their pages turn into “ it’s over priced bulldust and I could built something better at home” already one dude says his pi system beats it and another says his apple Mac mini is better and for a larf theres a few posts arguing over whether the screen is led or oled 1 1
Steff Posted May 11, 2023 Posted May 11, 2023 1 hour ago, cafe67 said: Yep I agree with what your saying there and at the moment there aren’t a lot of reviews around for it. the avforum review did seem a little more balanced and less hype? likewise the ASR one regards Dave Yes the avforum review at least goes into some detail (hardware, not software so much). Incidentally, I do hope that the eversolo will live up to its promise! Like @rantan I feel it would be good if a reasonably priced streamer with a full visual interface entered the market. (Perhaps my sour grapes follow along the lines of "beware of those bearing gifts...(Trojan Horse)" - I'll follow SNA members' reviews with interest!)
Braddles 63 Posted May 11, 2023 Posted May 11, 2023 Will be interesting how much back up will be offered to and passed on by Melbourne Chi-FI. From what i read they will be also available through Amazon soon. Whether that be good or bad....Ive not dealt with either.
rantan Posted May 11, 2023 Posted May 11, 2023 56 minutes ago, Braddles 63 said: they will be also available through Amazon soon Amazon are evil, but they do have the best exchange/refund policy around. If you don't like it or it doesn't work as promised they will refund or give you a new one. 1
Braddles 63 Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 (edited) Just noticed the Limited edition Bluesound Node X has been released too. Similar price to the A6 and also have a ESS Dac Edited May 12, 2023 by Braddles 63 1
mozart1503560475 Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 One of the other things I like about the Eversolo is the fact you can connect a PCIe SSD directly to the motherboard for your existing music library. No need for USB cables and external drives. 3
Snoopy8 Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 The principle influences of SQ in a streamer/DAC are the power supply and analog output stages. But everyone seem to focus only on the DAC chip! It is very cheap to use a good DAC chip compared with putting in good power supplies and good analog circuitry. Please do not expect this to perform as well as a Lumin, Auralic etc... 20 hours ago, Hydrology said: The problem I find with these "swiss army knife" products is not the quality they may offer, its the after sales support that either the manufacturer, distributor and/or dealer may offer. Good point. But many people will be bedazzled by the screen, DAC chip and its multitude of functions. Suggest people wait for real world experiences and a few more months before committing... 6 1
cafe67 Posted May 12, 2023 Author Posted May 12, 2023 12 minutes ago, Snoopy8 said: The principle influences of SQ in a streamer/DAC are the power supply and analog output stages. But everyone seem to focus only on the DAC chip! It is very cheap to use a good DAC chip compared with putting in good power supplies and good analog circuitry. Please do not expect this to perform as well as a Lumin, Auralic etc... Good point. But many people will be bedazzled by the screen, DAC chip and its multitude of functions. Suggest people wait for real world experiences and a few more months before committing... It's also alot cheaper than lumin, auralic etc
mozart1503560475 Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 .. and the DAC is less important if it fulfills the value proposition as a streamer only ... and offers value at the price point... Although the MXN 10 will do that and is cheaper
Braddles 63 Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 (edited) Dont think anyone here was talking about expecting $4k performance??? Edited May 12, 2023 by Braddles 63 1
Snoopy8 Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 2 hours ago, cafe67 said: It's also alot cheaper than lumin, auralic etc 1 hour ago, Braddles 63 said: Dont think anyone here was talking about expecting $4k performance??? Perhaps I did not phrase myself correctly? There are hints and hope that the Eversolo, with a better DAC chip, will beat the SQ of the BlueSound Node and Cambridge MXN10 in SQ. This is unlikely given the entry level power supply and analog circuitry. Which is why the Lumin and Auralic's will perform better SQ wise with better power supply and analog circuitry, but for a lot more dollars. Maybe someone will come up with a kit to use an external linear power supply like the Node? Please note I am a fan of streamer/DACs at all levels, starting from Node up... 2 hours ago, mozart1503560475 said: .. and the DAC is less important if it fulfills the value proposition as a streamer only ... and offers value at the price point... Although the MXN 10 will do that and is cheaper That is for a separate discussion and does depend on what people think makes for a good streamer. 3
cafe67 Posted May 12, 2023 Author Posted May 12, 2023 (edited) @Snoopy8 all good , it’s kinda funny/sad tho, you read the interwebs , people are this is the best thing Eva or this thing sucks , most of whom haven’t heard it yet - to make decision Edited May 12, 2023 by cafe67 3 1
PicoWattson Posted May 12, 2023 Posted May 12, 2023 (edited) Does anyone know if it supports native Deezer connectivity? Andy from Chi-Fi just responded to say it does. Edited May 12, 2023 by PicoWattson 1
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