cafe67 Posted June 5, 2023 Author Posted June 5, 2023 On 05/06/2023 at 6:51 AM, Tone Malone said: Good question, that's what I'm trying to get my head around. An outdated version of an operating system can exist and technically be "usable" for many years, but as it's superseded it gets less and less support, and eventually app developers stop catering for those versions as well. Android 11 is now the oldest version to still receive security updates from Google, so that would be the first thing to go ... whether this is really a problem for a streamer, I don't know. Tidal seems to work on Android back to version 7, and Spotify back to v6, and Roon back to v4, so they seem to be more "supportive" (so to speak!) My guess is that the Eversolo will work fine for 5 years, but unless the manufacturer can install a newer version of Android on the device, it may become a more tenuous proposition after that. For a device this well made and expensive, I'd be hoping for assurance over more like 10 years. I'm keen to hear from others with more knowledge of these applications, as it's really the only thing likely to stop me from buying it. Expand I don’t see why they could not update the version of android - similar to update firmware if you get 5 years out of a device, I’d call that pretty good, ymmv of course 2
rantan Posted June 5, 2023 Posted June 5, 2023 I should ( and will ) bow out at this stage. I just cannot fathom a five year lifetime and I am sure many Luxman and Sansui ( to name just two ) owners and enthusiasts would agree. Ciao for now and god speed to all. 1
Guest Posted June 5, 2023 Posted June 5, 2023 On 05/06/2023 at 8:26 AM, cafe67 said: I don’t see why they could not update the version of android - similar to update firmware Expand Not sure what the fuss is about running an older version of Android. Unlike a phone, there is no security risk. Cannot imagine a hacker wanting to get into your playlist! Zidoo uses a similar older Android version on their media players and all their development effort is on constantly improving the movie player (which is very good!). I suspect they will do the same with the music player...
Niktech Posted June 5, 2023 Posted June 5, 2023 (edited) Not sure what happened there…. It is interesting to see people’s sticking points on this. Mine is the additional cost of an LPS. However, only 5 years support is surprising. In 5 years I would imagine you could get something pretty spectacular for $1300 - Moore’s Law Edited June 5, 2023 by Niktech
Volunteer sir sanders zingmore Posted June 5, 2023 Volunteer Posted June 5, 2023 Lazy question from me, can this thing connect wirelessly to your network or does it have to be connected via Ethernet?
pjohn Posted June 5, 2023 Posted June 5, 2023 It definitely connects Wirelessly and Ethernet . I notice you're in Melbourne so you should be able to get a demo and check one out at Melbourne ChiFi audio . I think its on Victoria st in Richmond. 1
Volunteer sir sanders zingmore Posted June 5, 2023 Volunteer Posted June 5, 2023 On 05/06/2023 at 9:57 PM, pjohn said: It definitely connects Wirelessly and Ethernet . I notice you're in Melbourne so you should be able to get a demo and check one out at Melbourne ChiFi audio . I think its on Victoria st in Richmond. Expand I didn’t know they had a physical store. I can’t see anything on their website
pjohn Posted June 5, 2023 Posted June 5, 2023 Best to give them a ring if you're interested. I was in Melbourne quite a few years back and popped into a store that was almost exclusively Chinese HiFi . So I'm assuming that's the same one. It may no longer be there. Cheers John
Volunteer sir sanders zingmore Posted June 5, 2023 Volunteer Posted June 5, 2023 On 05/06/2023 at 10:27 PM, pjohn said: Best to give them a ring if you're interested. I was in Melbourne quite a few years back and popped into a store that was almost exclusively Chinese HiFi . So I'm assuming that's the same one. It may no longer be there. Cheers John Expand I think that’s a different store. I reckon the one you visited hasn’t been there for at least ten years (I forget it’s name but they had some nice kit)
maximus Posted June 5, 2023 Posted June 5, 2023 (edited) On 03/06/2023 at 5:37 AM, Niktech said: Interesting. My concern with this though, is that there is still no linear power supply. The original is $1399. When you add a reputable LPS - such as a KRAFTWERK II - $2000 puts it at another price point where there are other contenders Expand You could go an Sbooster at $700. Still $1500 less than a U2 mini and probably as good or thereabouts. Edited June 5, 2023 by maximus 1
stuj Posted June 5, 2023 Posted June 5, 2023 On 05/06/2023 at 9:46 PM, sir sanders zingmore said: Lazy question from me, can this thing connect wirelessly to your network or does it have to be connected via Ethernet? Expand Either, you have a choice 1
Braddles 63 Posted June 9, 2023 Posted June 9, 2023 (edited) I know reviews are to be taken with a pinch of salt. but i like the quirky way this guy speaks English and how he describes things. Also he has his thoughts on some interesting comparisons you can fast forward to. I found his review on how using different interfaces affected the sound interesting. Edited June 9, 2023 by Braddles 63 4 1
Boxa Posted June 9, 2023 Posted June 9, 2023 On 09/06/2023 at 3:26 AM, Braddles 63 said: I know reviews are to be taken with a pinch of salt. but i like the quirky way this guy speaks English and how he describes things. Also he has his thoughts on some interesting comparisons you can fast forward to. I found his review on how using different interfaces affected the sound interesting. Expand Yes, was also alittle confused how music from Eversolo's Tidal app can differ from Tidal app. Must test that.
pjohn Posted June 9, 2023 Posted June 9, 2023 So if you use the native app on screen , he feels it sounds better than going through Tidal connect ? I'd be interested in other peoples opinion on this. 1
Dr.Funk Posted June 16, 2023 Posted June 16, 2023 Hi Guys, I spent 4 hours listening to the A6 last night with Pat at War Audio here in Perth, his consignment arrived Wednesday night. We tried it as a stand alone player and as a transport going through the excellent Bakoon DAC's. It really is worthy of the praise it is receiving. As a owner of a Lumin A1 I can say, bang for buck, the A6 it is amazing. The app is very good, best I have used so far. The ability to display several digital VU meters may seem a silly gimmick, but it put a silly smile on mine and Pat's faces for sure. So if anyone in Perth is after one I suggest you call him, instead of waiting until August for delivery from NSW, I am sure they won't last long. If you do contact Pat, please tell him you read this post from Andy on SNA, I get nothing for it, but Pat will be able to gauge where the traffic is coming from. Cheers Andy 5
Dr.Funk Posted June 16, 2023 Posted June 16, 2023 Hi Guys, Following on from my previous post; I have noted that a few people are questioning a perceived issue with the Eversolo A6 unit using Android 11 as its operating software and therefore having a life expectancy of 5 years or less. I don't believe this is the case. I have a Lumin A1, which I control with an Android tablet and phone. Lumin stopped production of this model in 2015, yet I am still using it everyday. My Lumin did not stop but my tablet did. This stopped because the other apps (not banking) had continued to update until my tablet could not process them anymore. So I bought a second hand tablet, with a higher version number for $90 and away I went again. The reason that there are upgrades to Android in the first place, apart from general evolution of the technology (which is mainly camera's and AI), is that, with the continued growth of persons using their phones for banking, there is a continued need to close any vulnerability for the devices to be hacked. If you do not upgrade then the buck stops with you. A word of warning, if you are using the streamer on your indoor network and your network is public instead of private, without a sufficiently strong password, the 'A' hole hacker could get into you pc/laptop, exploiting said vulnerability and then possibly compromise your personal data. A friend of mine recently had her identity stolen, her phone was hacked via a simple password, then the 'A' holes found that she had used the same password on everything, once they got into her MyGov account, they hit the jackpot. They cleaned out her bank account, copied her driving license and ran up debts on her credit cards, they used her passport as ID as well!! Playing around with the A6 at War Audio last night, Pat and I, whilst putting the machine through its paces created a scenario of total internet failure. Obviously not hard, disconnected the modem so there was no LAN and no Wi-Fi. This was because I wanted to see if the unit was totally reliant on the net for everything. Using a usb SSD as the source , with no tablet or phone as a controller of the unit, I am happy to say you can control the unit directly off the touch screen. Unlike my Lumin which is totally dead without the internet as there are no controls on the fascia! Cheers Andy 5
Hydrology Posted June 16, 2023 Posted June 16, 2023 (edited) On 16/06/2023 at 4:23 AM, Dr.Funk said: Unlike my Lumin which is totally dead without the internet as there are no controls on the fascia! Cheers Andy Expand The Lumin can be controlled without internet, it CANT be controlled without a working network however. Edited June 16, 2023 by Hydrology
Dr.Funk Posted June 16, 2023 Posted June 16, 2023 On 16/06/2023 at 4:41 AM, Hydrology said: The Lumin can be controlled without internet, it CANT be controlled without a working network however. Expand Can you elaborate on that please Mark. I know I can buy a remote, but without a built in IR sensor I think that would then communicate via electrickery! (meaning Wi-Fi) I know that the A1 only has LAN, no Wi-Fi (not sure if that is the same for other models), does that make a difference? So if I have no internet, how would I control the A1, because if there was no internet, the A1 in the lounge cannot talk to my PC in the office, because there would be no network too? I feel sure I am going to get egg on my face here Cheers Andy
Guest Posted June 16, 2023 Posted June 16, 2023 New thread or PM please. This thread is about Eversolo, not Lumin. 1
Dr.Funk Posted June 16, 2023 Posted June 16, 2023 On 16/06/2023 at 5:10 AM, Marc said: New thread or PM please. This thread is about Eversolo, not Lumin. Expand Sorry, got caught up in the excitement! 1
Braddles 63 Posted June 16, 2023 Posted June 16, 2023 On 09/06/2023 at 3:45 AM, Boxa said: Yes, was also alittle confused how music from Eversolo's Tidal app can differ from Tidal app. Must test that. Expand Did you get a chance to test this for yourself?
Dr.Funk Posted June 16, 2023 Posted June 16, 2023 On 16/06/2023 at 5:49 AM, Braddles 63 said: Did you get a chance to test this for yourself? Expand Pat and I didn't either as we both have Qobuz. If you could make it to Pat's shop in Osborne Park you could try it out on his demo unit, just connect your Tidal account to the unit, using Pat's wi-fi. He will be there Saturday from about 12.30pm. 1
Braddles 63 Posted June 16, 2023 Posted June 16, 2023 On 16/06/2023 at 6:42 AM, Dr.Funk said: Pat and I didn't either as we both have Qobuz. If you could make it to Pat's shop in Osborne Park you could try it out on his demo unit, just connect your Tidal account to the unit, using Pat's wi-fi. He will be there Saturday from about 12.30pm. Expand I use Qobuz too. 1
PicoWattson Posted June 16, 2023 Posted June 16, 2023 On 16/06/2023 at 4:10 AM, Dr.Funk said: We tried it as a stand alone player and as a transport going through the excellent Bakoon DAC's Expand How did the inbuilt DAC perform compared with the Bakoon?
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