Kaynin Posted June 7, 2023 Posted June 7, 2023 All things golf, discuss it here. Technique, gear, the PGA or LIV, value is added by you. PGA vs LIV. Brand vs Brand. Technique vs technique. I retired from the work force recently, and always intended to take up golf. Holy shitagh. Golf is a hole new sport (lol) and something I'm committing so much time to. I've had about 20 lessons, and have learnt so much over 18 months, but now feel I'm at the beginning of REALLY moving forward! I'm at the stage where right shoulder drives down and through, and wrists are cocked and remain cocked until "released". Comments? Whatever they be... 1
evil c Posted June 7, 2023 Posted June 7, 2023 @Kaynin golf is a sport cunningly designed to initially create a supreme sense of euphoria in its disciples! Sometimes a few years can go by, and after your score(s) stay stubbornly high you attempt to refine your decidedly imperfect swing. This is the period where 9 times out of 10 , you'll regress and lose all faith in your swing/ life/ coach and seriously re- evaluate why you ever took it up. The above is a condensed version, mine has taken 30 years of overall abject misery - with the occasional endorphins addictive high with a fluke good shot! Case in point yesterday at Brighton, worst score in 5 years but man l nailed that shot onto the green from 150 on the last hole!, 1
ICUToo Posted June 7, 2023 Posted June 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Kaynin said: right shoulder drives down and through, and wrists are cocked and remain cocked until "released" This is the biggest mistake in golf! The moment that you start thinking about when your wrists go, you're stuffed! I speak from bitter experience Get out there and enjoy 11 minutes ago, evil c said: nailed that shot onto the green from 150 on the last hole! Absolutely true- 89 shoddy shanked topped slices are forgotten, but one magic OMG-I-didn't-even-feel-that-off-the-club look-up-and-it's-on-the-green moments and you feel fantastic! And it lasts until you've told the story 12-18 times 2
awayward Posted June 7, 2023 Posted June 7, 2023 Perhaps you are doing it wrong. https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSLYRp8ho/ 1
Kaynin Posted June 8, 2023 Author Posted June 8, 2023 On 7/6/2023 at 9:29 PM, awayward said: Perhaps you are doing it wrong. https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSLYRp8ho/ That’s just ridiculous!
Kaynin Posted June 8, 2023 Author Posted June 8, 2023 On 7/6/2023 at 8:55 PM, evil c said: @Kaynin golf is a sport cunningly designed to initially create a supreme sense of euphoria in its disciples! Sometimes a few years can go by, and after your score(s) stay stubbornly high you attempt to refine your decidedly imperfect swing. This is the period where 9 times out of 10 , you'll regress and lose all faith in your swing/ life/ coach and seriously re- evaluate why you ever took it up. The above is a condensed version, mine has taken 30 years of overall abject misery - with the occasional endorphins addictive high with a fluke good shot! Case in point yesterday at Brighton, worst score in 5 years but man l nailed that shot onto the green from 150 on the last hole!, So true, there’s so much pain involved, but the ripping shots just keep you coming back for more. I had a tough patch for 3 weeks and it made me question everything in my life! Lol I still don’t keep score, that will only add to my misery…
Kaynin Posted June 8, 2023 Author Posted June 8, 2023 On 7/6/2023 at 9:10 PM, ICUToo said: This is the biggest mistake in golf! The moment that you start thinking about when your wrists go, you're stuffed! I speak from bitter experience Yes, very true!
Kaynin Posted June 8, 2023 Author Posted June 8, 2023 So LIV and the PGA are merging! Wow, that happened fast - https://www.foxsports.com.au/golf/pga-tour-2023-liv-golf-merger-explained-players-to-return-cameron-smith-future-rankings-majors-fines-ryder-cup/news-story/027a4b423a565e97d3f2b576cfec7682 1
evil c Posted June 8, 2023 Posted June 8, 2023 10 hours ago, Kaynin said: So true, there’s so much pain involved, but the ripping shots just keep you coming back for more. I had a tough patch for 3 weeks and it made me question everything in my life! Lol I still don’t keep score, that will only add to my misery… Without a score, there are no winners or losers! And no real indication of whether you're improving or not. I have a modest aspiration - level wise, so l don't get too crushed by my performance, or lack of thereof !
Kaynin Posted June 9, 2023 Author Posted June 9, 2023 4 hours ago, evil c said: Without a score, there are no winners or losers! And no real indication of whether you're improving or not. I have a modest aspiration - level wise, so l don't get too crushed by my performance, or lack of thereof ! I don't see a score as being the only measure of performance though. I look at consistency, accuracy, and especially feel when I'm swinging the club. However I do note that most of the people I play with are in your camp, and encourage me to get a handicap. The other thing they say is to enter the comps, apparently this helps performance. I'm not sold, I think it adds pressure, which isn't what I'm looking for during this stage where I'm still developing my swing.
Kaynin Posted June 24, 2023 Author Posted June 24, 2023 If this doesn't sum up golf, then I don't know what does! 1
Kaynin Posted October 19, 2023 Author Posted October 19, 2023 (edited) So the weather is shining up, yippee kayay mofo! I was out for 9 tonight and yesterday. I've been very frustrated with my swing the last month or two, and a couple of lessons sorted me out. Funny though because the first lesson didn't get me hitting well, it was like a two part series. The second lesson brought things together. It all came down to the timing between the back swing and the down swing, and letting the hands "hang" for as long as possible. Oh, also digging in the club path from inside to out... Wow, what a difference that makes. Loving life on the course. Touch wood. Edited October 19, 2023 by Kaynin 2
cazzesman Posted April 7, 2024 Posted April 7, 2024 Alright time to try and get some golf talk going. I use to play....................poorly. I guess 27 handicap. I enjoy it but also stopped keeping score and I tell my playing partners that up front. I also only play off the shortish stuff. Anything in the bushes gets thrown back into the fairway. I would rather play happy than angry. I had lessons 30 yrs ago but none since. Retired recently and I'm still fit and mobile, so I am thinking about getting back into it. My clubs are 30 years old - MacGregor Doctor RX. They were a MacGregor Ping style knock off at the time. 25yrs ago I started playing with just a 5, 7 and 9 hybrid with DocX 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, PW, SW. I'm thinking of treating myself to some new clubs. Looking at the likes of the Cleveland Halo XL or Cobra T-Rail or similar. 5-9 then some hybrids maybe 7, 5, 3. It seems that all the rage these days is getting fitted for the entire kit or separates irons, hybrid, wedges. I'm in Melbourne, so any thoughts on fittings and the like. Regards Cazzesman
Kaynin Posted April 7, 2024 Author Posted April 7, 2024 Your thread resurrection is in time for The Masters this week and LIV in Adelaide starting the 26th of April! I was considering going to the LIV tournament, maybe next year because I left it a little late this time around. I've put The Masters in the US on the list for 1-2 years though, this is now a bucket list experience for me. In retirement, golf has snow balled for me over the past 2.5 years, and this year my swing has really come together. It's a great game, one that you can play well in to older age, so worth the effort. I'm similar to you, I still don't have a handicap or score. I play the ball as it lies, but now don't really get in to too much trouble. I prefer a happy, stress-free game, so avoid the comps. I'd forget about getting fitted for clubs - for now. I went through the same thought process when I bought my beginner set 2 years ago. In October last year I upgraded all of my clubs to an intermediate set, basically a combo of Wilson and Callaway gear. I still didn't do a personal fitting mind you, but I will next time (1-2 years) when my game has improved even more. There isn't much point paying for advice on what clubs to get if you can't swing them reliably. Forgiving, beginner style clubs will help your game plenty for now. I'd advise getting a PGA qualified pro lesson, say half an hour or an hour, and bring your clubs along. Ask them to advise if your current clubs are too hard for you to hit, or perfectly fine. If you need something else, then look in the beginner or second hand set markets - but you really need to know what you're getting. Clubs designed for intermediate or advanced golfers will really hurt your game. Last year I bought a Taylormade Stealth 2 driver. Rory McIlroy had difficulty in swinging it! Man that thing took my driving to 230 - 240 metres - but 2/10 times on my fairway, and 8/10 times onto the next fairway! I sold it and "downgraded" to a Callaway Rogue ST and now I'm hitting the fairway 7/10 times. One step at a time I guess. If you've got money to spend on the sport, then I say invest in half hour pro lessons. Go and practice exactly what they advise, and don't hit the course until you're comfortable with your swing modifications. It's advice taylor made specifically for you and your style, plus you'll gain so much knowledge. I've had 20+ lessons now and it feels like 2 steps forward, 1 step back. This was until my last two lessons this year which have really brought everything together. Stance, grip, hip/leg/arm/hand movements and angles all make a big difference. It's important to learn how to fix your own errors when they happen. My beginner set was Cleveland. It's a good solid brand, owned by Srixon. I spent $1,000 on bag and clubs, got plenty of use out of it. 1 1
evil c Posted April 7, 2024 Posted April 7, 2024 2 hours ago, cazzesman said: Alright time to try and get some golf talk going. I use to play....................poorly. I guess 27 handicap. I enjoy it but also stopped keeping score and I tell my playing partners that up front. I also only play off the shortish stuff. Anything in the bushes gets thrown back into the fairway. I would rather play happy than angry. I had lessons 30 yrs ago but none since. Retired recently and I'm still fit and mobile, so I am thinking about getting back into it. My clubs are 30 years old - MacGregor Doctor RX. They were a MacGregor Ping style knock off at the time. 25yrs ago I started playing with just a 5, 7 and 9 hybrid with DocX 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, PW, SW. I'm thinking of treating myself to some new clubs. Looking at the likes of the Cleveland Halo XL or Cobra T-Rail or similar. 5-9 then some hybrids maybe 7, 5, 3. It seems that all the rage these days is getting fitted for the entire kit or separates irons, hybrid, wedges. I'm in Melbourne, so any thoughts on fittings and the like. Regards Cazzesman Jeez 27 handicap, that's not too shabby! While l agree with Kayne on most points, 30 year old clubs are positively archaic and big improvements in clubs since then. But yes take them with you for a few lessons, it is something l regret not doing earlier. We tend to fall into bad habits, and they can quickly become ingrained in your swing to your overall detriment. After hardly playing over the dark lockdown period for 2 years, I've struggled to come back swing wise consistently. Few lessons fixed a couple of big flaws, and last game l played - really started to connect solidly and feel confident again! Should have a game together, kick the ball out of the rough sounds like a good style! 1
Mendes Posted April 7, 2024 Posted April 7, 2024 3 hours ago, cazzesman said: Alright time to try and get some golf talk going. I use to play....................poorly. I guess 27 handicap. I enjoy it but also stopped keeping score and I tell my playing partners that up front. I also only play off the shortish stuff. Anything in the bushes gets thrown back into the fairway. I would rather play happy than angry. I had lessons 30 yrs ago but none since. Retired recently and I'm still fit and mobile, so I am thinking about getting back into it. My clubs are 30 years old - MacGregor Doctor RX. They were a MacGregor Ping style knock off at the time. 25yrs ago I started playing with just a 5, 7 and 9 hybrid with DocX 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, PW, SW. I'm thinking of treating myself to some new clubs. Looking at the likes of the Cleveland Halo XL or Cobra T-Rail or similar. 5-9 then some hybrids maybe 7, 5, 3. It seems that all the rage these days is getting fitted for the entire kit or separates irons, hybrid, wedges. I'm in Melbourne, so any thoughts on fittings and the like. Regards Cazzesman Golf, mmmm, brings back many scared memories. Have not played for over 5 years now and they have been the best 5 years of my life With golf, be careful what you wish for. I worked my butt off for 10 years and got my handicap down to 8 a life long dream and then realized how hard it was to play to that HC and golf was no longer fun Relative to your clubs, the thing that will help you with new clubs at our age is graphite shafts, so give them a swing if you can test drive some clubs. The easiest way to improve your score is - short game, short game, short game, practice chipping and putting. Get deadly from 50 M in. Don't take this game too seriously, it will mess with you, I can attest to that Have fun 1 1
cazzesman Posted April 7, 2024 Posted April 7, 2024 Thanks folks, greatly appreciated. I think you answered my chicken and the egg dilemma. Lessons with my current clubs is grand advice before going silly buying new ones.. Aside from my actual swing (), find the major problems and fix from there. No point changing the hammer if the swinger can't hit the head of the nail. Happy hitting. Regards Cazzesman 2
Kaynin Posted April 12, 2024 Author Posted April 12, 2024 (edited) The Masters has started, albeit delayed. Fowler won the par 3 comp, so rule him out to win comp! The wind was causing a few issues, it will be interesting to see how this plays out. I love the coverage on the official website though - pick your player, then watch every shot be each hole. Bryson in the lead, he hasn't done so well in this tournament in the past, plus lots of golf to be played yet... Anyway, I'm inspired, I'm teeing off at 3:37 today... Edited April 12, 2024 by Kaynin 1
cazzesman Posted April 12, 2024 Posted April 12, 2024 I just watched Tiger finish Round 1. He looks to be in a world of pain. If he makes the cut, days 3 and 4 are going to be ugly on his body and mental toughness. Regards Cazzesman 2
cazzesman Posted April 13, 2024 Posted April 13, 2024 What amazingly tough conditions they played in at the end of Round 2. +6 cut. Cam Smith hung in all day. Cam Davis was superb. Tiger is going to sleep well. I'm thinking he will be chewing a few pain killers before bed time. Happy viewing. Regards Cazzesman
Kaynin Posted April 13, 2024 Author Posted April 13, 2024 Lol, yeah the wind is causing havoc. DeChambeau had a 2 or 3 stroke lead, now it's even. I fear he'll fall behind, especially with Scheffler there. Scheffler's driving action is crazy... Tiger still gets so much air time. I can't wait until his son, Charlie, hits the scene.
cazzesman Posted April 13, 2024 Posted April 13, 2024 (edited) And what about................................today's clangers................... Hovland missed a putt that finished 3 inches from the hole. He was missing the cut at the time but only just. He would have been +7 with 3 to play (cut at +6). He tried to back hand it into the hole in disgust and missed the hole and had 2 feet to come back. Spieth's 9 on the par 5, 15th in Rd 1. He flew it long and chipped back on to the downhill green. It went past the hole and into the water. Chipped back from the other side of the lake and went long again. Then duffed his chip back on. Train wreck. Justin Thomas even par with 4 to play in Rd 2. Well inside the cut. Went Double, Double, Bogey, Double to finish +7 and missed the cut by 1. His face on the 18 looked decidedly ill. 5 Australian's made the cut so someone to watch. Happy putting. Regards Cazzesman. PS. I'm watching way too many youtube golf video's but.....................has anyone seen the Hackmotion sensor in action live. Interesting device that helps set you wrist at the top and bottom. About $470 Aust delivered from the USA. Not cheap, but with a private lesson at $150+ it is only 4 lessons, and you get instant feedback and correction. Feedback from youtube reviewers is generally extremely positive. The Prosendr is also a training aide for the wrist and that is $300 with no tech. https://hackmotion.com I am off OS in a weeks' time for a few weeks, so I plan to get some lessons on my return. Regards Cazzesman Edited April 13, 2024 by cazzesman 1
Kaynin Posted April 14, 2024 Author Posted April 14, 2024 The Scheff maintains his composure again as others fall away...looking good from here.
cazzesman Posted April 14, 2024 Posted April 14, 2024 Scheff is such calm player. Just shot after shot he plays with assurance and zen like mental toughness. Kudos to Min Wo for a solid round of 69 today. Smithy hung tough to finish 6th. Alot of big names out the back of the pack. Great viewing the first 3 days and I will spend a few hours this arvo watching the last 9 holes. Regards Cazzesman
cazzesman Posted April 16, 2024 Posted April 16, 2024 One of the best interviews I have seen. He's a gem. Regards Cazzesman 3
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