joeling Posted September 1, 2023 Posted September 1, 2023 Hi all, Has anyone heard the Luxman C10X with the Luxman M10X ? I heard the M10X with the Luxman CL38 but found the Cl38 to be a little not so transparent on the high. Does the C10X do better ? Need assurance to calm some nerves while waiting many more months for the C10X. Thanks.
Hydrology Posted September 1, 2023 Posted September 1, 2023 I cant imagine there are many C10X units in the wild full stop, certainly NONE in Australia. About the only pairing would be at hi-fi shows, which isn't necessarily the way to critique audio as you know! C900? Very transparent and have heard this pairing, but keep in mind one person's transparency is another person's dullness! 2
DVDHack Posted November 16, 2023 Posted November 16, 2023 The M-10X works very well with the Esoteric C-02. Having waited a year for the M-10X I'm finding it hard to entertain ordering a C-10X with another long delay.
DVDHack Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 I rang my dealer this week, C-10X should be here beginning of next year. 2
harfdef Posted December 8, 2023 Posted December 8, 2023 I have the M10x paired with M900. Haven't heard of anyone who has upgraded to the M10x being unhappy or downgrading but not found much info on improvements brought by the C10x so would be interested in the results of your audition DVDHack
DVDHack Posted December 8, 2023 Posted December 8, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, harfdef said: I have the M10x paired with M900. Haven't heard of anyone who has upgraded to the M10x being unhappy or downgrading but not found much info on improvements brought by the C10x so would be interested in the results of your audition DVDHack How do you mean paired? Are you running bi-amped? Or did you mean the c900? Im not auditioning the C-10X, I haven't heard of any going into stock for demo, the limited number of high end Luxman seems to sell immediately. I outright ordered it, deposit paid. Been told mid to late January. I'm currently running an Esoteric pre-amp. Edited December 8, 2023 by DVDHack 2
harfdef Posted December 8, 2023 Posted December 8, 2023 sorry typo meant the c900. Also did not realize you had to order it unheard. So the only way to compare the c900 to the C10x is to find someone who has the C10x in my part of the world, thats unlikely to happen for quite a while.
DVDHack Posted December 8, 2023 Posted December 8, 2023 18 minutes ago, harfdef said: sorry typo meant the c900. Also did not realize you had to order it unheard. So the only way to compare the c900 to the C10x is to find someone who has the C10x in my part of the world, thats unlikely to happen for quite a while. I was told there was no chance of me listening to a M-10X when I ordered that, I was told that there were 2 on order and they were both accounted for, one was mine. When I ordered the C-10X I was told it would be the first in the country and after waiting 12 months for the M-10X I wasn't going to pass up the opportunity. I'm not a big auditioner of equipment, I find that the room and the other equipment, especially speakers, make comparisons pretty much meaningless. However, I have had a long history of Luxman purchases, starting with my first ever secondhand amp, L-80V I bought when I was 16. The M-10X does sound superb with the Esoteric C-02, I hope the C-10X will improve on that. I have never heard the C900. 1
DVDHack Posted January 24, 2024 Posted January 24, 2024 I received my C-10X today and I'm just starting to have a listen. Sounds good so far, confirmation bias? Im a bit disappointed with Luxman's design. I run a fully balanced system but the external preamp input for, in my case, the AVR to integrate the fronts into the home theatre is only available as an RCA unbalanced input, that's all good but the dim wits made it so the out put is also limited to the unbalanced outputs, so you can't run a balanced system and use the external preamp facility. Fortunately I don't use the home theatre that much and I'll wire the AVR direct to the unbalanced inputs in the power amp and just switch it manually. I'll report back on how the preamp sounds when I've done a bit of listening and I might do some comparing to the Esoteric C-02.
joeling Posted January 24, 2024 Author Posted January 24, 2024 (edited) Wow. Time to put some pressure on my dealer (NOT in Australia) then. Edited January 25, 2024 by joeling
Wilson71 Posted January 24, 2024 Posted January 24, 2024 It's gonna be good, you know it is.. Luxman have always made seriously good quality gear.. Just getting a bit expensive now.
DVDHack Posted January 24, 2024 Posted January 24, 2024 14 minutes ago, joeling said: Wow. Time to put some pressure on my dealer then. Have you ordered one? I was told the ship,ent came in on Saturday to the importer. They then check the units and send them to the dealer. Tomorrow I'll make it a new power cord. I might make up some RCA cables and try the system all unbalanced.
joeling Posted January 24, 2024 Author Posted January 24, 2024 (edited) I ordered my Luxman M10X end of 2022 (NOT in Australia). Took delivery July or August 2023 (after I threatened to cancel). The moment I heard that the C10X was being released, I ordered one from my local dealer (NOT in Australia). This could have been June last year. Dealer told me it should arrive December but still no joy. This unit is for my place in Malaysia. If everything works out, I am seriously considering the same for my Perth home. I heard that Luxman works well with Vivid. So far for me, Luxman has this very dense and weighty sound much like the Gryphon. My kind of preference. Opposite to that of an Accuphase which to me is too lean. Edited January 25, 2024 by joeling
Wilson71 Posted January 24, 2024 Posted January 24, 2024 34 minutes ago, joeling said: So far for me, Luxman has this very dense and weighty sound much like the Gryphon. My kind of preference. Opposite to that of an Accuphase which to me is too lean. Their source units (CD players and Turntables) are equally good. Seriously good quality kit all round.
DVDHack Posted January 24, 2024 Posted January 24, 2024 7 hours ago, joeling said: I ordered my Luxman M10X end of 2022. Took delivery July or August 2023 I ordered my M-10x in Nov 2022, I received it in Nov 2023. Took just under a year. The preamp was ordered in early December 2023, so took just under 2 months. I dint think it's the order date that matters as much as the allocation of units and shipping by Luxman in Japan. I expect if you have an allocation of the C-10x then you'll get one within the week given shipping times to Perth. Mine was delivered to the retailer yesterday afternoon and I went to pick it up straight away. Ive run it for 5 hours so far.
Hydrology Posted January 25, 2024 Posted January 25, 2024 6 hours ago, DVDHack said: I ordered my M-10x in Nov 2022, I received it in Nov 2023. Took just under a year. The preamp was ordered in early December 2023, so took just under 2 months. I dint think it's the order date that matters as much as the allocation of units and shipping by Luxman in Japan. I expect if you have an allocation of the C-10x then you'll get one within the week given shipping times to Perth. Mine was delivered to the retailer yesterday afternoon and I went to pick it up straight away. Ive run it for 5 hours so far. Just so there's no confusion and unnecessary finger-pointing, I believe @joeling cycles between Malaysia and Perth, and in this instance I am assuming his "dealer" is his Malaysian-based dealer? Just wanted to clear the air as I've had two people contact me already asking me to set the record straight about current Australian availability and of course the markets for both countries (and availability) would be different. I say this for no other reason that we are the sole WA dealer for Luxman and all information we have given anybody on (difficult) stock availability for Luxman has always been in liaison with the Australian distributors, and not "made up". 3
joeling Posted January 25, 2024 Author Posted January 25, 2024 Mark & all, Apologies for the confusion. I am not referring to Australia. If I do intend for Luxman in Perth, I will most definitely look you up (haggle haggle ) 1
DVDHack Posted January 25, 2024 Posted January 25, 2024 37 minutes ago, Hydrology said: all information we have given anybody on (difficult) stock I was just passing on my experience with purchasing my latest lot of Luxman. If that's inspired people to order from you you're welcome. 1
joeling Posted January 25, 2024 Author Posted January 25, 2024 4 minutes ago, DVDHack said: I was just passing on my experience with purchasing my latest lot of Luxman. If that's inspired people to order from you you're welcome. Your info has helped me to get my (NOT in Australia) dealer to go pester Luxman HQ for allocation (LOL). Much appreciated. 1
Kieron Posted September 30, 2024 Posted September 30, 2024 Any more updates on C10x and M10x pairing?
DVDHack Posted September 30, 2024 Posted September 30, 2024 23 minutes ago, Kieron said: Any more updates on C10x and M10x pairing? Ive run my pair for about 8 months now and I think theyre superb. I recently acquired a pair of Tune Audio Animas and they seem a bit fussy with amplification, theyre very efficient. I expect theyre meant be paired with valves but I find the Luxman with A class for the first watts runs them beautifully. Im so happy with them that Im selling down my second system and just running speaker cables through the wall to the Animas. I think theyll see me right until the M-11X and C-11X come out 1
Kieron Posted September 30, 2024 Posted September 30, 2024 1 hour ago, DVDHack said: Ive run my pair for about 8 months now and I think theyre superb. I recently acquired a pair of Tune Audio Animas and they seem a bit fussy with amplification, theyre very efficient. I expect theyre meant be paired with valves but I find the Luxman with A class for the first watts runs them beautifully. Im so happy with them that Im selling down my second system and just running speaker cables through the wall to the Animas. I think theyll see me right until the M-11X and C-11X come out Great to hear! Sounds like the C10x took it to another level again. Is this the best preamp that you have owned?
DVDHack Posted September 30, 2024 Posted September 30, 2024 7 minutes ago, Kieron said: Great to hear! Sounds like the C10x took it to another level again. Is this the best preamp that you have owned? Id say it's the best pair Ive owned. I think the synergy with the 2 is important. 1
joeling Posted September 30, 2024 Author Posted September 30, 2024 6 hours ago, Kieron said: Any more updates on C10x and M10x pairing? Apologies, I made the mistake to compare this combo with another brand that is 5-8X more expensive. This combo did not overcome the hurdle.
James Horsburgh Posted October 13, 2024 Posted October 13, 2024 Luxman M10X.................possibly the ugliest Luxman in years. Just sayin.
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