southern_tango Posted October 22, 2023 Posted October 22, 2023 Hi everyone, looking for advise, always had a bit of static electricity discharge when removing a record or lifting the tonearm but since I change our floating floor to hybrid my amp has joined the task to kill me... The discharges have increased from both Amplifier and TT , all grounds are connected and continuity tested. I noted the new floor as it is mostly plastic ( PVC) and only thing that change in that area How to get rid of reduce the amount of static electricity? Any help/ advice will be appreciated.
silencer13 Posted October 22, 2023 Posted October 22, 2023 Get a humidifier, raise the humidity in the room to 60-65%. you can also get an ion blower to remove static. i use the above 2 methods plus a Zerostat gun to remove static from my records.
southern_tango Posted October 22, 2023 Author Posted October 22, 2023 3 hours ago, silencer13 said: Get a humidifier, raise the humidity in the room to 60-65%. you can also get an ion blower to remove static. i use the above 2 methods plus a Zerostat gun to remove static from my records. I usually use one of those plasma bbq igniters for my records ( misplaced when did the floors) but never had problems with my amp...
bob_m_54 Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 If you're getting it from the amp as well, sounds more like you're generating static either by your feet on the floor, or maybe what you're sitting on. When you come in contact with the grounded chassis of any equipment you get the discharge. 1
andyr Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 On 22/10/2023 at 8:44 PM, southern_tango said: Hi everyone, looking for advice, always had a bit of static electricity discharge when removing a record or lifting the tonearm but since I change our floating floor to hybrid my amp has joined the task to kill me... The discharges have increased from both Amplifier and TT , all grounds are connected and continuity tested. I noted the new floor as it is mostly plastic ( PVC) and only thing that change in that area How to get rid of reduce the amount of static electricity? Any help/ advice will be appreciated. Sadly, I suggest you won't be able to get rid of the static you are experiencing, to an acceptable level. (Call it an "unadvertised benefit of your new plastic flooring"! ) Just as an example of annoying static which I experienced - and then surprisingly removed, when I made a change to my TT: I had no static when lifting records off the platter with the original version of my 'SkeletaLinn' TT. (Chassis made of aluminium C-section.) I then changed the chassis to Delrin (a plastic). an unexpected byproduct of this was that ... I then experienced baaad static whenever I took an LP off the platter. a subsequent change to a much stiffer chassis made from Panzerholtz ... removed my static problem! so my Delrin (plastic) chassis created static! 1
southern_tango Posted October 23, 2023 Author Posted October 23, 2023 10 hours ago, bob_m_54 said: If you're getting it from the amp as well, sounds more like you're generating static either by your feet on the floor, or maybe what you're sitting on. When you come in contact with the grounded chassis of any equipment you get the discharge. You could be right on that one , as I seat on a velvet sofa which has that effect...
southern_tango Posted October 23, 2023 Author Posted October 23, 2023 8 hours ago, andyr said: Sadly, I suggest you won't be able to get rid of the static you are experiencing, to an acceptable level. (Call it an "unadvertised benefit of your new plastic flooring"! ) Just as an example of annoying static which I experienced - and then surprisingly removed, when I made a change to my TT: I had no static when lifting records off the platter with the original version of my 'SkeletaLinn' TT. (Chassis made of aluminium C-section.) I then changed the chassis to Delrin (a plastic). an unexpected byproduct of this was that ... I then experienced baaad static whenever I took an LP off the platter. a subsequent change to a much stiffer chassis made from Panzerholtz ... removed my static problem! so my Delrin (plastic) chassis created static! I thought that delrin was low on static charge as it is been used as platter material...interesting...
MattyW Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 I’m half wookie, so sadly I’m a static electricity generator. I’m used to shocking others and being shocked so there’s simply no avoiding this. On the upside the new car I have on the way has an ioniser built in so hopefully I’ll see a reduction in shocks while driving that if nothing else. 1
andyr Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 3 hours ago, southern_tango said: I thought that delrin was low on static charge as it is been used as platter material...interesting... Yes - very strange! But after my experience - although I had discussed with Duc, when he was alive, him making me a Delrin outer platter for my SkeletaLinn ... I'm no longer going to follow up on that idea.
Neo Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 Try a rubber mat in front of the setup, so you are standing on it when interacting with the components. Neo 1
andyr Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 51 minutes ago, Neo said: Try a rubber mat in front of the setup, so you are standing on it when interacting with the components. Neo Non-conducting *rubber* mat? How will *that* help with static?
Neo Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 (edited) 30 minutes ago, andyr said: Non-conducting *rubber* mat? How will *that* help with static? https://notrax.justrite.com/555-superflow-xt-esd-anti-static-mat Edited October 24, 2023 by Neo
Neo Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 https://docs.rs-online.com/91e3/0900766b8164e2ae.pdf https://au.rs-online.com/web/c/esd-control-cleanroom-pcb-prototyping/esd-control-clean-room/anti-static-mats/
andyr Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 27 minutes ago, Neo said: https://notrax.justrite.com/555-superflow-xt-esd-anti-static-mat I'd be happier using it if the drain cord was included:
southern_tango Posted October 24, 2023 Author Posted October 24, 2023 11 hours ago, andyr said: Yes - very strange! But after my experience - although I had discussed with Duc, when he was alive, him making me a Delrin outer platter for my SkeletaLinn ... I'm no longer going to follow up on that idea. andyr, couldn't help me with my curiosity and checked your TT, quite an interesting build , congrats for the result, looks incredible ( btw, it surprises me not to see you running away from the Linn fans screaming sacrilegious )
andyr Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 57 minutes ago, southern_tango said: andyr, couldn't help me with my curiosity and checked your TT, quite an interesting build , congrats for the result, looks incredible ( btw, it surprises me not to see you running away from the Linn fans screaming sacrilegious ) Thank you, s_t ... if you are in Melbourne, you might like to come over for a listen some day. (The latest Karousel bearing and the LP12 outer platter are about all that's left of an "LP12"! ) Re. Linn fans ... I did get a comment that it looked like an LP12 made from Meccano! (Although this was with the 1st version - where the skeletal chassis was made from aluminium C-section which I had bought from Bunnings! ) 1
bob_m_54 Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 The mat on the floor is a bit of an overkill. All you really need is a way of draining the static charge built up on your body, at a controlled rate, rather than a zap. So just a touch pad is really all you need. Something like this: http://anti-staticmat.com/antistaticonetouchpad.htm This is only the first result that popped up on a gooble search, you may find others. 1
wasabijim Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 a $2 spray bottle of water producing a wide fine mist. lightly spray yourself and hands and the flooring around your gear before touching the TT/record and/or amp 1
acg Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 I've got one of these things... https://sonicpurity.com.au/store/vinyl-care-accessories/cs-port-ime1 Haven't used it yet as the TT is out of the room whilst renovations are in progress so cannot say if it works or not...but I sure hope it helps when the weather is dry and windy as this summer is threatening. 1
southern_tango Posted October 25, 2023 Author Posted October 25, 2023 This issue is going crazy, just change a record..Zap , then on the next one went to rise the volume ...ZAPPP got an spark of about 7 mm to my finger ( still recovering guess my heart skipped a beat) 1
Neo Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 25 minutes ago, southern_tango said: This issue is going crazy, just change a record..Zap , then on the next one went to rise the volume ...ZAPPP got an spark of about 7 mm to my finger ( still recovering guess my heart skipped a beat) Have you read comments above?
southern_tango Posted October 25, 2023 Author Posted October 25, 2023 9 hours ago, Neo said: Have you read comments above? Yes, for me are not practical as my system is in my living room so wife factor for those solutions is zero... Need to find my plasma igniter and see if that works ...
Neo Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 Then what about wearing shoes with rubber soles when handling the system. That should help reduce build up of static from the plastic floor. Neo
wasabijim Posted October 26, 2023 Posted October 26, 2023 it's either you or the system or both that's building up charge ever play spark tag as kids? I got my brother a good one once - right on the corner of the eye... couldn't stop laughing for days. the ear's another good target to play well you need tricks for building charge and I try to avoid those when spinning - i make sure I've not got wool and/or synthetic clothing on and don't shuffle-drag your feet, etc. maybe have someone nearby you can discharge-zap? "just stand there Hun"
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