System for a cafe

[vinilink]

Knowing not every customers are into music (or audiophiles).  For me, if I enjoy the music with good SQ while sipping a coffee, I would stay longer and may order another coffee and snacks/cakes to enjoy what I am listening. Eg, according to a research, supermarkets play certain type of genre music to suit a major demographics who do the shopping. If they enjoy the music while browsing the isles, they tend to move with slow pace and with good moods, tend to purchase more. On top of good foods, good beverages, good service, and with nice vibes along with nice background sound/music, may attract more customers or have more regulars. 

My 2 cents.

[wasabijim]

for me the acoustics and treatment or at least some thought towards it goes a big way. its easy to end up with polished floors, floor to ceiling glass, bare concrete ceiling, hard table and bench tops, uninterrupted walls, road noise, etc. all conspiring to create a harsh edgy environment where the glare and echo feeds on itself. it's a struggle to hear each other and consciously and/or unconsciously you want to get out of there. 

 

 

[POV]

5 hours ago, davewantsmoore said:

Agreed, strongly.... but the brief is SPL high enough for a conversation to be impossible.

Think you might have read that wrong Dave.  

 

On 22/11/2023 at 6:40 PM, Bcdesign said:

Loud but not too loud that having a conversations wouldn’t be possible.

 

[LucasB]

25 minutes ago, Ian McP said:

couple of big budget systems in Melbourne

 

High Note Northcote

https://beat.com.au/high-note-is-northcotes-brand-new-live-music-venue-in-a-heritage-listed-building/

 

Waxflower Brunswick

https://waxflowerbar.com.au/

https://waxflowerbar.com.au/music/

Somewhat strange to see High Note here! I was one of the carpenters that worked on the renovations there and installed both sets of speakers. 

Hanging those speakers was pretty unnerving. The horns alone in the main music room were around 30-40kgs each. 

[Anton Mullet]

On 22/11/2023 at 9:15 PM, Bcdesign said:

Thank you, another great suggestion.

Will look into.

 

The inner hipster in me would love to geek out with a full analogue system but like you said, after the first few months with a line at the counter, the last thing I want to be doing is worrying about flipping the record.

 

Thank you

You'd have two decks. Just play one side and have another record side ready to fade across..

In some ways it's easier. You have your vinyl for the night and play it. If you rely on streaming, you can get stuck in the same playlists, over and over and then going to pick something new can become overwhelmed with X million tracks to pick from. Of course there are ways to avoid that if you have the time but it can become a case of too much choice. I like and use  all formats though. They are all good. 

[wasabijim]

just be across the licensing and any associated commercials playing copyright material in a public space (yeah like anyone pays attention to that)

 

If it was me I'd look at radio/internet stations to avoid variety traps, staying away from those overly relying on ads. I'm not sure patrons are going pick up on a less than ideal bit-rate and leave never to return because of it. 

 

also a good music and listening driven vibe can extend beyond playback to live performance. Both low-key live instruments and live DJ sets (not necessary EDM disco doof). performers, especially hipster herding residents, can bring/draw their own crowd - more turnover plus it's hard to beat a crowd when it comes to promotion.

 

 

it can come across a bit "corporate moon-w@nk" (sorry force of work habit) but market placement wise, what are you aiming for?
eg - let's  assume you'll put extra emphasise and the necessary investment into your coffee product (because we all know places that do the opposite, consciously or not) -  are you another cafe with good coffee that puts a bit effort into music OR a music-centred space that happens to have not just coffee but good coffee? 

[davewantsmoore]

17 hours ago, POV said:

Think you might have read that wrong Dave.  

 

  oh dear.

Sorry all.

 

Some sort of Sonos or Bluesound system would be a good choice, as long as they're not pushed hard (like any speaker really, bad sound when distortion gets too high)

[Ian McP]

https://sunnybins.com/

 

https://www.facebook.com/SunnyBins/

[astormsau]

Lilac Wine bar in Richmond Melbourne has four of these bad boys. Certainly makes an impression and sound great. Tannoy Arden mk1 and mk2’s.