Allan Posted December 17, 2023 Posted December 17, 2023 (edited) I did a search but there didnt appear to be much in the way of how to safely clean a stylus that has proven itself over time to be both effective & safe. A few methods I found on the net & their apparent inherent issues; Ultrasonic Baths - some state possible cart suspension damage Onsow Zero Dust, a polymer tacky gel - some state this leaves a tacky residue on the stylus, if true it cant be good for dust collection Liquid Cleaning chems - some say the chems could deteriorate stylus adhesives Brushes - there's different types, I've found they are not effective when significant grime has adhered to the stylus Have you a time proven, safe and effective cleaning method? Edited December 17, 2023 by Allan
scuzzii Posted December 17, 2023 Posted December 17, 2023 I use a MoFi stylus brush every 2 or 3 sides (or if there is visible fluff on the stylus). Ultra sonic every month. Not had any issues. 1
aussievintage Posted December 18, 2023 Posted December 18, 2023 Dry brush if fluff is visible. Dip in magic eraser every record. Brush with AT cleaning fluid about once a week (at most)
Ian McP Posted December 18, 2023 Posted December 18, 2023 Stylast is still around https://recordclean.com.au/last-stylast-stylus-treatment.html 1
cafe latte Posted December 18, 2023 Posted December 18, 2023 Isopropyl is the only way to go. Magic potions you dont know what is in them, also dipping a brush back into the same bottle you are introducing oils and grim into the cleaning solution which you dont want. Sticky pads leave a residue on the stylus and I have seen stylus pulled off with misuse too so best avoided in my opinion. Alcohol will not hurt glue, I wish it did it would make things easier to retip. The glue is epoxy and it is resistant to alcohol, epoxy can be used to fix a cart fuel tank when the solvent is in constant contact with it. A few seconds when you clean a stylus wont hurt anything. Dont though drown the stylus, I spray a stylus brush and flickit so it is just damp, this is more than enough. Chris 8
stevoz Posted December 18, 2023 Posted December 18, 2023 I was an unabashed fan of 'sticky hands' (a child's toy) which is the same or very similar to Zerodust but after repeatedly experiencing varying level's of SQ and subsequently spying a glob of build up under magnification on the diamond I have returned to a simple stylus brush.....and clean my stylus at the start of each listening session, which usually lasts 3-4 LP's. SQ is now always top shelf. Maybe once a year I might do a liquid clean but aren't a total convert to this....besides my LP's are super clean after glue peeling anyway. 2
Allan Posted December 18, 2023 Author Posted December 18, 2023 (edited) Good feedback @stevoz I gotta get one of those digital magnifying thingy's Edited December 18, 2023 by Allan
mkaramazov Posted December 19, 2023 Posted December 19, 2023 I use an Audio Technica AT637 ultrasonic stylus cleaner, followed by AT cleaning fluid. The AT637 is out of production but can be sourced second hand. I clean every 2-3 sides. I have a small magnifying glass that I use to visually check the stylus - very useful when there is some gunk stuck there.
andyr Posted December 19, 2023 Posted December 19, 2023 21 hours ago, cafe latte said: Isopropyl is the only way to go. Agreed! 21 hours ago, cafe latte said: Don't drown the stylus, I spray a stylus brush and flick it so it is just damp, this is more than enough. Chris My preferred method is: take a mouthful of vodka from the bottle wiggle my tongue around in my mouth (so it's well coated with vodka) extend my tongue out through my lips - taking care not to drip any alcohol - and lift my tongue so its top is touching the stylus then stroke the stylus with the top of my tongue - of course, from rear to front then swallow the vodka! 8 1
astormsau Posted December 22, 2023 Posted December 22, 2023 I’ve had good success with the Hudson “UV” unit from Amazon for removing stubborn stuff the brush doesn’t seem to move. I’ve got a zero dust and a few other types of brushes and fluids but the Hudson works better than all of them and was worth a shot at $70. I use a standard round brush for regular cleaning and the Hudson every few weeks. I’ve got a VDH DDT2 cartridge which is pretty fragile. Hudson Hi-Fi Turntable UV Stylus Cleaner Vinyl Cleaning - Vinyl Stylus Needle Cleaner for Turntable Record Player - Anti Static Needle Cleaner for Turntable Accessories https://amzn.asia/d/6rkWnB3
Allan Posted December 22, 2023 Author Posted December 22, 2023 On 19/12/2023 at 1:21 PM, andyr said: Agreed! My preferred method is: take a mouthful of vodka from the bottle wiggle my tongue around in my mouth (so it's well coated with vodka) extend my tongue out through my lips - taking care not to drip any alcohol - and lift my tongue so its top is touching the stylus then stroke the stylus with the top of my tongue - of course, from rear to front then swallow the vodka! if I bought Vodka the stylus would never get cleaned
Allan Posted December 22, 2023 Author Posted December 22, 2023 so think I'll move away from the Zerodust gel and go with dry brushing and the occasional UV bath, isopropyl only when and if needed thank yo'll 1
mbic Posted December 23, 2023 Posted December 23, 2023 (edited) A J Van den Hul says not to clean you stylus, but keep your records clean. Edited December 23, 2023 by mbic 1
mbic Posted December 23, 2023 Posted December 23, 2023 I use green putty, it is best to keep any solvents away from the stylus.
cafe latte Posted December 23, 2023 Posted December 23, 2023 1 hour ago, mbic said: I use green putty, it is best to keep any solvents away from the stylus. Not true, alcohol won't hurt epoxy. Thr putty sticks to thr stylus and you end up with a cement like ball. Chris 3
metal beat Posted December 23, 2023 Posted December 23, 2023 2 hours ago, mbic said: I use green putty, it is best to keep any solvents away from the stylus. As Cafe said. A recipe for disaster and gunk. 1
mbic Posted December 23, 2023 Posted December 23, 2023 The putty is recommended by the Expert Styus Company who do retipping, if it’s good enough for them it’s good enough for me. They have seen a large number of cantilevers that have suffered from the use of solvents.
Warren Jones Posted December 23, 2023 Posted December 23, 2023 22 hours ago, Allan said: so think I'll move away from the Zerodust gel and go with dry brushing and the occasional UV bath, isopropyl only when and if needed thank yo'll Dry brush the stylus after every LP side and you will never need to use anything else. 2
cafe latte Posted December 23, 2023 Posted December 23, 2023 9 hours ago, mbic said: The putty is recommended by the Expert Styus Company who do retipping, if it’s good enough for them it’s good enough for me. They have seen a large number of cantilevers that have suffered from the use of solvents. This is simply not true, alcohol won't hurt your cantilever, stylus or the glue. On the other hand I have seen thr cement goop ball that forms with the putty, I have also seen carts that stuck too well and pulled off the stylus with it. Over at Vinyl Engine a member did an experiment with old stylus. He put various stylus in a jar of isopropyl alcohol for several weeks. Not a brush for seconds but totally submerged for weeks. Thry were ten removed and tested and examined, and they were totally fine. They all played normally and no tips fell off. Cleaning with alcohol we are using a damp brush and just on thr tip. We are not drowning the cantilever. Done this way the alcohol evaporates right away. Chris 5
cafe latte Posted December 23, 2023 Posted December 23, 2023 59 minutes ago, Warren Jones said: Dry brush the stylus after every LP side and you will never need to use anything else. I disagree here. Yes dry brush often can keep thr stylus quite clean, but oils and grease, even vinyl debris can be more sticky. My records are all cleaned, but now and again light use of a solvent brush gets the stylus new clean again. Very clean records you wont need alcohol often but I feel now and again a wash is good thing. Chris 4
April Snow Posted December 24, 2023 Posted December 24, 2023 (edited) @cafe latte would a quick spray (not too close) of this on the brush be a good thing to use? Is this a good product? (Think I may have some stashed which is why I am asking..........used it to clean a wall before sticking something up) I think I would trust your advice seeing you work with retipping every day Edited December 24, 2023 by April Snow
andyr Posted December 24, 2023 Posted December 24, 2023 4 minutes ago, April Snow said: @cafe latte would a quick spray (not too close) of this on the brush be a good thing to use? Is this a good product? (Think I may have some stashed which is why I am asking..........used it to clean a wall before sticking something up) I think I would trust your advice seeing you work with retipping every day April - that should be fine ... providing it doesn't have anything else mixed in with the IPA (except for water); IOW it's quite pure. Does it say in the label how pure it is? BTW, you should be able to buy bottles of 99.5% IPA at your chemist ("Craig Pharmaceuticals", I think). 1
April Snow Posted December 24, 2023 Posted December 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, andyr said: April - that should be fine ... providing it doesn't have anything else mixed in with the IPA (except for water); IOW it's quite pure. Does it say in the label how pure it is? BTW, you should be able to buy bottles of 99.5% IPA at your chemist ("Craig Pharmaceuticals", I think). Yes I wondered that, I picked it up from Bunnings from memory. https://www.bunnings.com.au/diggers-125ml-isopropyl-alcohol_p1564443 Maybe I best not risk this one - I am just not sure what product to get that is pure
cafe latte Posted December 24, 2023 Posted December 24, 2023 5 minutes ago, andyr said: April - that should be fine ... providing it doesn't have anything else mixed in with the IPA (except for water); IOW it's quite pure. Does it say in the label how pure it is? BTW, you should be able to buy bottles of 99.5% IPA at your chemist ("Craig Pharmaceuticals", I think). I agree. The Jaycar bottles are very pure. I buy alcohol in bulk, but the spray bottles at Jaycar are good for this. Chris 1 1
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