damohpi Posted October 18, 2014 Posted October 18, 2014 Not sure if this helps, but when I bought my hommage mat a couple of years back it was 80 EUR ex. VAT.
soundfan Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 (edited) I thought I'd resurrect this thread after touching base with a member of the Lenco Heaven forum. Might be of interest to other Idler users. He put up an interesting post in an "Ultimate Idler Turntable" thread on that website, and I asked his permission to post here. I found it very interesting given his experience with EMT, Garrard, Commonwealth, and other Idler tables, including Lenco's. I suggested he look at SNA, and he's done more than that, @@Jloveys is now a member here. Below is the post from Jean: All this discussion is very subjective and we can compare turntables only if we have experienced the effective use of them in our own listening room for some time or serious listening tests at friends / relatives places or at ETF or LencoHeaven meets.Even with two identical models of the same brand the motor noise and the sound of music can be different.Here is my own experience :I have had about 6 Garrard 301 and I kept only one that is totally silent, and they all where completely restored professionally.The Garrard 401 has a better motor than the 301, more stable and silent.I have 2 EMT 927 and one is noisier than the other, the most silent 927 is the R80-S ( all restored by Hans Van Vliet )I have 1 EMT 930 and it is as good as the 927's, even more dynamic.We had an EMT 948 at the LH meet and it is an amazing dynamic turntable.The EMT 938 is also very good, so is the EMT 950, but too complicated electronics in case of failure, so are all the direct drives.The Pierre Clément professional ( ORTF ) are dead silent and to me the best choice for mono, but it depends of the serial number.I have heard in Japan a Linn LP 12 first model with SME fixed headshell and Shure pro cartridge sound as dynamic and musical asmany idlers out there, even EMT 927.The TD 124 is less dynamic and fits Classical music quite well, too shy for jazz, soul and rock music.But to me the most consistent between serial numbers , good dynamic turntable, dead silent motor , that can be used for all kinds of music, very simple to repair and that is affordable is the LENCO L70 and L75.I am a music lover and a turntable geek and believe me, Lenco's are a work of art !Cheap, easy to maintain, best for crazy upgrades, continuous pitch control from 16 RPM to 90 RPM with conical shaft, no turntablesever made can do this, and the sound is very dynamic and stable.I am very proud to be on this Lenco forum, to have built Yoda a maximum crazy upgraded L75 , done many other turntable brands restorations and organise the Lenco Heaven Beauvechain meets, even if I now play more with EMT 927, 930 or Cléments I am stilla Lenco idler big fan and I will come back with new Lenco crazy projects.Like Jean Nantais I can say : VIVA LENCO !To me it is the ultimate idler driven turntable Edited June 10, 2015 by soundfan 4
soundfan Posted July 27, 2015 Posted July 27, 2015 (edited) I recently had Duc (lovetube) do some surgery on my Alphason HR100S tonearm as it had a couple of issues such as stripped wire from cartridge tags and the arm bearing pillar, and I also had him replace the din plug. In the end he saved me having to get the arm re-wired which was great because I wanted to retain the wiring job that Audio Origami did a few years back. Thanks so much Duc, great work at an excellent price and a quick turnaround too. Anyways, I have put the Lenco back into use (still have no room to have 2 tables set up in system) and am very very happy with this turntable. I love it and doubt I'd trade it for anything. Some here may remember that I kept this Lenco and sold on my Technics SP10 MK II in slate plinth. Another great deck, but at that time one had to go. Through the upgrades of bearing and idler wheel over the last year, and the use of 2 platters, I feel I'm pretty close now to having maximized the potential of how great this Lenco can sound. All except speed control, which can be a pain in the ass checking once a week or so. I currently use the KAB Speedstrobe and Quartz Lock Strobe Light, and although the speed doesn't drift at all over a couple of hours use, it'd be great to have something I could "set and forget" in place. So...... I've been considering buying a Phoenix Engineering Eagle PSU and the Roadrunner Tachometer, but Bill Carlin told me via email 4 months ago that at that time they wouldn't work with the Lenco tables. Apparently the Eagle was rated for 15W, and the Lenco motors required more, more so for 50hz units. However....he did say in that email that he had a prototype of a new version of the Eagle being beta tested and depending on the trials, it would go into production later this year. Apparently it will work with all Lenco's, Garrards etc. Pretty sure I read (may have been diy.com) on some forum somewhere last week of an owner using his PSU and Tachometer products with a Lenco table, maybe it was a prototype, so might be time to contact Bill again. Enough rambling, here are a few pics. And if I was to sell the Thorens TD 125 I have, I suppose I could keep the SME 3012 tonearm from it and install it pretty close to where that blue brush is sitting in the last pic, and rotate the table counter clockwise. Edited July 27, 2015 by soundfan 10
metal beat Posted July 27, 2015 Posted July 27, 2015 (edited) Just beautiful Chris Was getting the veneer of the table close to your speakers part of the plan? Edited July 27, 2015 by metal beat
Upfront Posted July 27, 2015 Posted July 27, 2015 (edited) http://www.opera-consonance.com/products/PS-1.htm I've got one of these for my stalled lenco project. Originally bought for the garrard i have before i found another motor. Think they're rated to 63w?? Will dig through some emails if your interested. Edited July 27, 2015 by Upfront
soundfan Posted July 27, 2015 Posted July 27, 2015 Just beautiful Chris Was getting the veneer of the table close to your speakers part of the plan? Thanks Shane, no not at all, it just turned out that way. The speakers are Jamo Concert 8's, think I had them before I purchased the Lenco. 1
soundfan Posted July 27, 2015 Posted July 27, 2015 http://www.opera-consonance.com/products/PS-1.htm I've got one of these for my stalled lenco project. Originally bought for the garrard i have before i found another motor. Think they're rated to 63w?? Will dig through some emails if your interested. Thanks Linc I could well be interested, although finances dictate it may be a month or so before I consider this option. Will pm you should I require more info.
Upfront Posted July 27, 2015 Posted July 27, 2015 Happy to post it over to you if you'd like to try it. Sent from my SM-G900I using Tapatalk
soundfan Posted July 27, 2015 Posted July 27, 2015 Happy to post it over to you if you'd like to try it. Sent from my SM-G900I using Tapatalk Thanks I'll do some research first, and let you know. Really appreciate the offer.
peterpan Posted July 28, 2015 Posted July 28, 2015 I've got one of these for my stalled lenco project. Hi Linc, how did this unit work? and where and how much did it cost? I am looking for a speed controller for my PTP Lenco cheers Peter
Upfront Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 (edited) Hi Linc, how did this unit work? and where and how much did it cost? I am looking for a speed controller for my PTP Lenco cheers Peter Hi Peter It was much quieter than the Seimens Micromaster I was using previously. Sounded dead silent. It didnt quite have the adjustment needed for the application though. But would have plenty for the lenco. So thats my plan with it. I think they retail for $499. But was purchased through Greg Osborne for a very reasonable price. Linc Edited July 29, 2015 by Upfront
peterpan Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 Hi Peter It was much quieter than the Seimens Micromaster I was using previously. Sounded dead silent. It didnt quite have the adjustment needed for the application though. But would have plenty for the lenco. So thats my plan with it. I think they retail for $499. But was purchased through Greg Osborne for a very reasonable price.Linc Hi Linc thanks. cheers Peter
awty Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 Very nice to see it all up and running soundfan. Which bearing and wheel did you end up with? Ive been trying to work up the courage to hack at my lenco. Still haven't finished the Nigel speed control, just need a couple of transformers a heat sink and finish putting it all together. Its a pretty straight forward build.
soundfan Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 (edited) Very nice to see it all up and running soundfan. Which bearing and wheel did you end up with? Ive been trying to work up the courage to hack at my lenco. Still haven't finished the Nigel speed control, just need a couple of transformers a heat sink and finish putting it all together. Its a pretty straight forward build.14381373500341491597421.jpg Hi Paul It's been up and running for quite a while, just upgraded bits and pieces as required. I purchased one of Jolyon's bearings that he lists through Lenco Heaven, and the idler wheel I purchased from Norbert (x-L75diy) on the same site. I also have one of Nigel's PCB's, but doubt I'll ever hunt down all the parts and get it made. Edited July 29, 2015 by soundfan 1
Telecine Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 I also have one of Nigel's PCB's, but doubt I'll ever hunt down all the parts and get it made. Contact member Green Wagon Chris, he can build it for you at a reasonable price and is in Brisbane. 1
christosd Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 Hi Paul It's been up and running for quite a while, just upgraded bits and pieces as required. I purchased one of Jolyon's bearings that he lists through Lenco Heaven, and the idler wheel I purchased from Norbert (x-L75diy) on the same site. I also have one of Nigel's PCB's, but doubt I'll ever hunt down all the parts and get it made. I am a big fan of Norbert's wheel. It made my gl75 listenable after trying lots of other things to improve solidity and musical 'directness' that I was wanting to get out of my first foray into idlers. Did the big bearing do much?
soundfan Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 (edited) I am a big fan of Norbert's wheel. It made my gl75 listenable after trying lots of other things to improve solidity and musical 'directness' that I was wanting to get out of my first foray into idlers. Did the big bearing do much?Yeah,just bought it all together a bit more. Better defined bass was the more noticeable improvement. I often find that it takes a little while to notice any changes that mods/upgrades/changes can make...but yes; a definite plus.On the other hand, I didn't hear any improvement in regards to the idler wheel, which replaced another metal wheel. Edited July 29, 2015 by soundfan 2
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