wasabijim Posted November 13, 2024 Posted November 13, 2024 a chap I visited in Hamburg was living in his own suburban home. had a whole basement. I couldn't believe it (living in London at the time). massive, really same footprint as the main house. He'd just re-done the bath room, with a waterless urinal even! made sense as he had a couple of boys already and more planned. It became a cave, of sorts. I think German changed him, he n the 4 kids (more due) played, hung out, slept, washed, everything. they kinda lived/dowelled down there with the main house a charade... there must be some mighty fine basement setups out there 1
Flash Posted November 13, 2024 Posted November 13, 2024 On Canada, and basements, there’s a bloke I follow on Instagram, from Calgary, with a really cosy basement setup, complete with green shag, haha. His handle is @audioloveyyc. If you like jazz, he’s definitely worth a look. It’s no “man cave”, as he readily points out. Both him and his wife share their love of music, which I think is bloody awesome. 1
vivianbl Posted November 17, 2024 Posted November 17, 2024 I have an almost dedicated room for my music listening. Always compromises, , but overall happy with result. The room was included when extension was completed in 2017/18. Reasonable size 5m* 9m.* 2.7. Double plaster walls/ ceilings and rock wool insulation. Sliding doors structure and placement not ideal and suspended floor with carpet on particle board, Hi fi system, sofa and listening chair in that room didn’t make for good sound.! Having to wait for the shifting of furniture gave me chance to better understand the acoustics of the room. No electronic measurement, just systematic approach with some trial and error. Used a variant of the Sumiko method for speakers positioning- very tedious and Jennifer Warnes “Ballad of the Runaway Horse” and the bass lines became ingrained in my head! Anyway, it’s been good fun, still learning and experimenting, with little adjustments to fine tune acoustics. Some photos of the early days and current performance stage from the listening chair. 6 1
frankn Posted November 17, 2024 Posted November 17, 2024 5m x 9m x 2.7m is a lovely room size. If I was building a house I’d go for that, with possibly a higher ceiling but 2.7m is good. 2
vivianbl Posted November 17, 2024 Posted November 17, 2024 20 minutes ago, frankn said: 5m x 9m x 2.7m is a lovely room size. If I was building a house I’d go for that, with possibly a higher ceiling but 2.7m is good. Yes, had to make several compromises- height, a sturdy sliding door structure doors and cavity. Should have also considered a more solid floor too. it still took a fair bit of acoustic “treatments” to voice the room. Have some diffuser absorbers for ceiling that has not gone on. The curtains are very light and moveable. Light absorption behind speakers hidden by curtains. The floor behind and between the speaker are are also “sensitive”/responsive areas. 1
LogicprObe Posted November 17, 2024 Posted November 17, 2024 No I don't, but I think there is a poll option for the thread starter. That might be interesting. My room is a music room......it has drums and amps and that sort of stuff.............mostly headphones there......... The big speakers are in the garage!
Flash Posted November 17, 2024 Posted November 17, 2024 1 hour ago, LogicprObe said: No I don't, but I think there is a poll option for the thread starter. That might be interesting. My room is a music room......it has drums and amps and that sort of stuff.............mostly headphones there......... The big speakers are in the garage! What are drums doing in a music room? Sorry, couldn’t help myself. Something James Morrison said years ago about his son giving up music, and taking up the drums, stuck in my head, haha. 1
steviebee Posted January 21 Posted January 21 No...and don't want one. I like the idea of having music in the shared living room and not cloistering myself away, plus my wife likes the Fraim ( she chose it when I was looking for a new rack, to my surprise) - it's the sheer amount of records she's not keen on (I have way too many). Those I could cloister, if we had a house. But the means to play em stays communal. 3
frankn Posted January 21 Posted January 21 I’d love to have my system in the living room/area but Mrs won’t agree. 1
almikel Posted January 21 Posted January 21 On 17/11/2024 at 6:07 PM, vivianbl said: I have an almost dedicated room for my music listening. Always compromises, , but overall happy with result. The room was included when extension was completed in 2017/18. Reasonable size 5m* 9m.* 2.7. Double plaster walls/ ceilings and rock wool insulation. Sliding doors structure and placement not ideal and suspended floor with carpet on particle board, Hi fi system, sofa and listening chair in that room didn’t make for good sound.! Having to wait for the shifting of furniture gave me chance to better understand the acoustics of the room. No electronic measurement, just systematic approach with some trial and error. Used a variant of the Sumiko method for speakers positioning- very tedious and Jennifer Warnes “Ballad of the Runaway Horse” and the bass lines became ingrained in my head! Anyway, it’s been good fun, still learning and experimenting, with little adjustments to fine tune acoustics. Some photos of the early days and current performance stage from the listening chair. I love Quad 57's - awesome setup and great room! 1
almikel Posted January 21 Posted January 21 6 hours ago, steviebee said: No...and don't want one. I like the idea of having music in the shared living room and not cloistering myself away 26 minutes ago, frankn said: I’d love to have my system in the living room/area but Mrs won’t agree. same here - but my wife and I share many listening sessions in the dedicated room, with vastly better sound than I could have replicated in the lounge room without intrusive treatment. Mike 3
Flash Posted January 22 Posted January 22 22 hours ago, steviebee said: No...and don't want one. I like the idea of having music in the shared living room and not cloistering myself away, plus my wife likes the Fraim ( she chose it when I was looking for a new rack, to my surprise) - it's the sheer amount of records she's not keen on (I have way too many). Those I could cloister, if we had a house. But the means to play em stays communal. I can’t disagree with this. I love sharing my music. Especially opening someone up to things they haven’t heard before, and probably wouldn’t ordinarily listen to, and have them react positively (or otherwise) to it. It’s for me, a bit like good wine, and whisky. All are so enjoyable when shared. There is of course a flip side to this. I find it much easier to completely dedicate myself to a piece of music when I’m alone (which I am a lot), with no distractions. I can concentrate on individual players, and the nuances of varied arrangements. As I live alone (), I don’t need a dedicated room for this. 2 1
MattyW Posted January 22 Posted January 22 (edited) Ah, looks like a full hebel build will be out of reach financially so going to use lightweight cladding on timber frame and insulation throughout. Not the build hoped for but at least something I can afford. Still will have inspiration in every wall to keep the home cool and noise free. Edited January 22 by MattyW
almikel Posted January 27 Posted January 27 On 22/01/2025 at 11:11 AM, MattyW said: Ah, looks like a full hebel build will be out of reach financially so going to use lightweight cladding on timber frame and insulation throughout. Not the build hoped for but at least something I can afford. Still will have inspiration in every wall to keep the home cool and noise free. It will add cost, but I would definitely recommend 2 layers of Gyprock with Greenglue between, and either offset studs or furring channel + whisper clips for the walls inside the listening room (at least the internal walls adjoining other rooms). There's loads of good information here: https://www.soundproofingcompany.com/soundproofing-101 I couldn't provide numbers, but IMO you'll get better performance (ie lower sound transmission and better "in room" damping of bass) with 2 layers of 10mm standard Gyprock with Greenglue between, compared to a single layer of Gyprock Soundchek. cheers, Mike 2
playdough Posted January 27 Posted January 27 (edited) They took a while to DIY, one dedicated room without a stereo, taken over by another hobby and work. It has an CSR perf ceiling, with multi layer rock wool, varying sized bulkheads and a half wall of mass loaded membrane, extensive shelving, Double layer gyp, wisper clips and so on. it tests very well in REW and will get another stereo eventually. The other is a shared space, kitchen/Family zone, of double gyp/loaded, chambered limp membrane wall panels of very large surface area, treated ceiling, double glazing and floor treatments, so off topic really,,,,both are exceptional places to frequent (love these spaces), well insulated/ventilated and quiet. Edited January 27 by playdough 3
playdough Posted January 27 Posted January 27 5 hours ago, almikel said: 2 layers of 10mm standard Gyprock Hi Mike, yep agree in practice 100% , several treated areas, although instead of the greengoo I use polyurethane and dab it on in buttons at 120mm, does the job, remains flexible. readily available. In most cases it's used to lower the noise floor low, inside the listening zone/living space and better insulate against whatever extreme outside . As a spin off, the walls become rather solid like masonry to a lesser degree.
LogicprObe Posted January 27 Posted January 27 I'm not allowed to. Although, I have three rooms with 'Gear' in them, it is 'distasteful'.
Kirby66 Posted January 28 Posted January 28 I have a plan for a dedicated room which I researched and had drawn up a couple of years ago. New building separate to the main house. Found this system in my research ... https://kineticsnoise.com/isomax/sound-isolation-clips My plan is to use 2 layers of Gyprock with Greenglue between all hanging off this clip system. 2
Batty Posted February 9 Posted February 9 I have chucked a couple of rugs into the empty room and redone the 'clap' test and echo has reduced a lot. Air con going in on the 28th Feb. No idea when the gear will go in, there is a cheapo half desk unit to be removed too. Water chiller installed and there is enough room for the espresso maker. 5
Batty Posted February 9 Posted February 9 We have a 91 litre bar fridge, but Christine has claimed that for her Nan shed. 1 1
LogicprObe Posted February 9 Posted February 9 On 28/01/2025 at 12:44 PM, Kirby66 said: I have a plan for a dedicated room which I researched and had drawn up a couple of years ago. New building separate to the main house. Found this system in my research ... https://kineticsnoise.com/isomax/sound-isolation-clips My plan is to use 2 layers of Gyprock with Greenglue between all hanging off this clip system. You see on that home page, there is a gap between the framing and the block wall? That isolation is the most important thing to consider. As for mounts, Rondo and Gyprock have their own versions too. https://www.rondo.com.au/products/acoustic-assemblies/acoustic-assemblies https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwimrd7Nn7aLAxWdUGwGHauIKhMQFnoECA0QAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.gyprock.com.au%2Fapi%2Fsitecore%2Fgyprockproduct%2Fgetgyprockpdf%3Fname%3DAccessories%20Resilient%20Mount%20Clip%26url%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.gyprock.com.au%3A443%2FProducts%2FAccessories-Resilient-Mount-Clip&usg=AOvVaw3MLHyIkbh1UYA8EHme36qy&opi=89978449 Ceilings are the hardest to soundproof followed by doorways and windows. 2
LogicprObe Posted February 9 Posted February 9 9 minutes ago, Batty said: We have a 91 litre bar fridge, but Christine has claimed that for her Nan shed. Little bar fridges are pretty cheap these days but awfully inefficient compared to a large fridge.
Batty Posted February 9 Posted February 9 Once we have moved in there will be a full size fridge freezer under 3 metres away
Kirby66 Posted February 9 Posted February 9 10 hours ago, LogicprObe said: Ceilings are the hardest to soundproof followed by doorways and windows. Back when I was doing the research I found that there is a distinct difference between 'sound proofing' and sound treatment. If I remember correctly sound proofing a single listening room can be detrimental to sound quality as the pressure of the waves needs an escape or something like that. 3
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