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Posted
20 hours ago, georgehifi said:

From what I understand Apple iPhones or computers (unless they have Windows installed also) can't "live stream" lossless flac, (only Android and Windows can), but they can save it, reconfigure it to AAC then play it, but that's not lossless flac quality

Hi George,

I've never had problems streaming FLAC from RP on my MacBook.

Here's a screenshot from their website.

 

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I never use the website because I stream RP through my Roon server but it does stream FLAC straight from the website.

Posted
27 minutes ago, a.dent said:

I've never had problems streaming FLAC from RP on my MacBook.

Try the two live stream links I gave see if they open and play immediately, this is what I want to do as there's nothing but music using all of the bandwidth.

Windows and Android open them no problem and once heard you will not go to any other way of listening to RP 

RP  Main mix (flac):  https://stream-eu.radioparadise.com/flac

RP  Mellow mix (flac):  https://stream-eu.radioparadise.com/mellow-flac

 

Cheers George

 

Posted
1 hour ago, georgehifi said:

Try the two live stream links I gave see if they open and play immediately, this is what I want to do as there's nothing but music using all of the bandwidth.

Windows and Android open them no problem and once heard you will not go to any other way of listening to RP 

RP  Main mix (flac):  https://stream-eu.radioparadise.com/flac

RP  Mellow mix (flac):  https://stream-eu.radioparadise.com/mellow-flac

 

Cheers George

 

 

You are correct. Those links won't play on the MacBook. They just attempt to download with no result.

 

I can't see how the sound quality would vary between your linked streams and the website streams though. They are both exactly the same digital music stream so will have identical music content. The only difference is there is metadata and a nice UI on the website.

 

I put your stream URLs into Roon "My Live Radio" and they play fine. I'm not convinced they sound any different from the website streams though. The major downside is you miss out on all the metadata etc.

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Posted (edited)
On 29/09/2024 at 1:24 PM, a.dent said:

You are correct. Those links won't play on the MacBook. They just attempt to download with no result.

Thank you @a.dent 

That's what I originally said, just needed someone else to confirm it to me in case I was doing something wrong on the iPhone, so I'll stick with Windows or Android based laptop or phone. Would have been nice if Apple weren't such          , and allowed them to be live streamed on their platform also.

 

On 29/09/2024 at 1:24 PM, a.dent said:

The major downside is you miss out on all the metadata etc.

It's been said before by others here on SNA that all the metadata/UI involved in apps when live streaming, takes away from the sound quality live streaming resolution, audibly lowering it.

That I'm sure is what I hear when using just those meta data free 2 links with Windows, instead of via RP Apps for windows that are set for flac. (If you have a Windows try it)

 

https://stream-eu.radioparadise.com/flac

https://stream-eu.radioparadise.com/mellow-flac

 

(If you have a Windows/Android a/b them)

Naturally on a good system that shows it with width depth and image placement, not headphones or kitchen/office book shelf system 

 

This with all the "meta data"   https://radioparadise.com/home 

vs

This with no "meta data"   https://stream-eu.radioparadise.com/flac

 

I can switch between the two in around 3 seconds

Without all the meta data being streamed with the music, you'll clearly hear better more extended highs and a more open sound, even though both are set for flac

 

Cheers George 

Edited by georgehifi
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Posted
1 hour ago, Leinster Lad said:

Perth.  RP does not stream at all via "mobile data"   since 01/01/2025 ......

Well that sucks, not for me, but for others.

 

Cheers George 

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