HansW Posted February 17 Posted February 17 I am looking for a good streamer that natively supports Apple Music. I read about Eversolo and Sonos. Does anybody know if there are other streamers that natively support Apple Music or any other brands that plan to integrate Apple Music in the near future? Thanks
BugPowderDust Posted February 17 Posted February 17 The only thing I’ve seen do this,and do it well, was the eversolo units. With Sonos you’ll be limited to 24/48, whereas the Eversolo will let you go to 24/192. 1
Hi-Fi Whipped Posted February 17 Posted February 17 (edited) Fiio S15 is meant to, similar pricing to the base model eversolo models. https://darko.audio/2025/01/fiio-teases-full-width-s15-touchscreen-streaming-dac/ Edited February 17 by Hi-Fi Whipped 1
betty boop Posted February 17 Posted February 17 3 hours ago, HansW said: Does anybody know if there are other streamers that natively support Apple Music or any other brands that plan to integrate Apple Music in the near future? Thanks I have the eversolo a8 and it will support natively lossless Apple Music as will rest of eversolo family other is the fiio R9 and later releases the astell & kern dap I had also did lastly I believe the hifi rose rs 151 is also likely to do, however not seen evidence of this as yet at present eversolo is best bet. It works seamlessly and without issue and from an affordable price … 1
HansW Posted February 18 Author Posted February 18 Thanks for the info. Do you know if it streams lossless?
Hi-Fi Whipped Posted February 18 Posted February 18 41 minutes ago, HansW said: Thanks for the info. Do you know if it streams lossless? Yes lossless and hi res 1
betty boop Posted February 18 Posted February 18 5 hours ago, HansW said: Thanks for the info. Do you know if it streams lossless? Eversolo ? Yes both can see in eversolo a8 thread have posted some photos showing what it does with Apple Music 1
rand129678 Posted February 21 Posted February 21 On 17/2/2025 at 7:31 PM, betty boop said: at present eversolo is best bet. It works seamlessly and without issue and from an affordable price … A6 Gen 2 works? Thats the most affordable ? https://www.westcoasthifi.com.au/shop/players-recorders/media-streamers/eversolo-dmp-a6-gen-2-music-streamer/
betty boop Posted February 21 Posted February 21 8 hours ago, rand129678 said: A6 Gen 2 works? Thats the most affordable ? https://www.westcoasthifi.com.au/shop/players-recorders/media-streamers/eversolo-dmp-a6-gen-2-music-streamer/ Don’t see why not ?
mitchlim Posted February 23 Posted February 23 I have compared with couple devices .... still think using iPad (USB to dac) is the best sound for Apple Music . 1
betty boop Posted February 23 Posted February 23 Just now, mitchlim said: I have compared with couple devices .... still think using iPad (USB to dac) is the best sound for Apple Music . What couple of devices ?
mitchlim Posted February 23 Posted February 23 Eversolo and Filo - I think they are based on Android OS .... not as good as Native iOS for Apple Music
mitchlim Posted February 23 Posted February 23 Even you can try using iPhone if you have one ... bear in mind now can use iPhone Mirroring to control
betty boop Posted February 23 Posted February 23 1 minute ago, mitchlim said: Eversolo and Filo - I think they are based on Android OS .... not as good as Native iOS for Apple Music How were they hooked up ? Using their dac or yours ? what dab with the iPad ? And what iPad and is it using usb-c or lightening ?
mitchlim Posted February 23 Posted February 23 I am using Ferrum Wandla Dac My iPad Pro is USB C ... connect to Mutec MC3+USB (as reclocker) then SPDIF /AES to Ferrum Wandla iPad attached the Apple Magic Keyboard which has extra USB C port for charging .. therefore I do not need a USB Hub
mitchlim Posted February 23 Posted February 23 Even can use a Mac computer .... just download and install a software "lossless Switcher" .... then can play Apple Music natively (Bit perfect) https://github.com/vincentneo/LosslessSwitcher 1
betty boop Posted February 23 Posted February 23 @mitchlim appreciate posting.. however did you compare the eversolo feeding all this stuff as well..and comparing ipad via usb into same ? that way will be using same back end just apple stuff as source ? to be fair i suspect most folks posting here i suspect will be wanting a one box solution to feed a hifi rig rather than multi box off plus iPad or macbook/computer ? appreciate the post though.. i have an old iPad air 3 with lightening and went into my usb dac which is a focal Arche(micro mega) dac/headphone amp... into my 2ch rig.. to be honest i havent felt it was much better or perceptibly differnt to be honest vs ever solo a8, was done some while ago after i got it.. i can explore again.. also looking to update my iPad at some stage and new one likely have usb-c and not sure if that makes a difference yes i can try either my MacBook.. over usb-c which have done a while back or phone (not tried) can explore again those when get a chance ... personally so far i like that the ever solo is a one box.. stream dac.. can feed my pre direct and can use it with phone or iPad interface at the couch and all losslessly and native apple
mitchlim Posted February 23 Posted February 23 Is the iPad’s sound better than Eversolo’s? Yes, but only when playing Apple Music. What’s the reason behind this? I can only speculate... Since both Apple Music and the iPad’s software are designed by Apple, they are likely optimized to work together. On the other hand, Eversolo runs on Android OS when playing Apple Music, which might explain why Apple Music generally sounds better on an iPhone than on an Android phone. Eversolo is well-designed and reasonably priced, but do you find that its sound is less engaging and less musical? Additionally, adding the Mutec MC3+ USB between the iPad and DAC brings a significant improvement in sound quality. In my opinion, that’s the best way to play Apple Music. Of course, for Qobuz ..... iPad may not be my choice
mitchlim Posted February 23 Posted February 23 Using a Mac to play Apple Music is not bit-perfect unless you add software like LosslessSwitcher, which I mentioned above. 1
betty boop Posted February 23 Posted February 23 2 minutes ago, mitchlim said: Is the iPad’s sound better than Eversolo’s? Yes, but only when playing Apple Music. What’s the reason behind this? I can only speculate... Since both Apple Music and the iPad’s software are designed by Apple, they are likely optimized to work together hi mithclim. it does matter if you are comparing he iPad with all the back end equipment vs ever solo on its own or are you comparing the ever solo as well with the same back end. this matters a lot... as dac and back end you are using will impact on the sound... 3 minutes ago, mitchlim said: Eversolo is well-designed and reasonably priced, but do you find that its sound is less engaging and less musical? Additionally, adding the Mutec MC3+ USB between the iPad and DAC brings a significant improvement in sound quality. In my opinion, that’s the best way to play Apple Music. Of course, for Qobuz ..... iPad may not be my choice the ever solo a8 is really a one box solution so will appeal to folks who want that.. and being able to do as a note the apple music app on the play store is still made by apple and with the ever solo a8... to play apple music on it natively you actually do need to log into apple using the ever solo screen so yeah you are playing this directly off apple music 2 minutes ago, mitchlim said: Using a Mac to play Apple Music is not bit-perfect unless you add software like LosslessSwitcher, which I mentioned above. that will be same issue with iPad or iPhone off usb-c output into dac ? i imagine.. cant see why not ... ever solo doesnt need this ...
mitchlim Posted February 23 Posted February 23 Eversolo is okay as a streamer, but I do not like its digital converter, as I have better DACs such as the Ferrum Wandla and dCS Rossini. For Apple Music streaming, I prefer using the iPad over Eversolo—maybe it just suits my personal taste. The weakness of the iPad is that I can’t use a remote control. However, since the last macOS update, I can use the iPhone Mirror app to control my iPhone.
betty boop Posted February 23 Posted February 23 1 minute ago, mitchlim said: Eversolo is okay as a streamer, but I do not like its digital converter, as I have better DACs such as the Ferrum Wandla and dCS Rossini. thats fair enough .. but you can use any dac you want with it ? theres no reason for instance you cant also use the same dac and back end as you are with the iPad ? instead of a8 you just buy the a6 then.. use it as transport and use with same iPad back end or ferrum or dCS what ever takes fancy ? 2 minutes ago, mitchlim said: For Apple Music streaming, I prefer using the iPad over Eversolo—maybe it just suits my personal taste. The weakness of the iPad is that I can’t use a remote control. However, since the last macOS update, I can use the iPhone Mirror app to control my iPhone. just keep in mind there are two ways of streaming from ever solo.. one is using the google play app but that is lossy... alternative is logging in direct through the ever solo and have to do this to then play native apple lossless and can mirror that to the phone 1
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