Tube phono stages

[Happy]

Frankly, acoustic halls in Sydney ain't all that. I wouldn't really want to have them as the touchstone for my sound reproduction.

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[Warren M.]

What or which or who's TT??

 

 

ATBTase.

That could be the rub.

 

Bringing my Once is always a supreme headache, but it is the best sounding turntable system that I can easily get hold of. It's lowest fi component is its Lyra Kleos, and you would need to pay around $6K to get a cartridge which is audibly superior to the Kleos in my opinion.

 

My living room is not the world's best place to hear music, but it has the advantage of a very good turntable system already set up.

 

Open to suggestions.

 

Regards

Warren

Edited April 26, 2015 by Warren M.

[ABG]

Happy to host at my place Warren, but we would have to limit it to 3 or 4 others.  Alternatively, I'm happy to come over to yours or Mendo's.  Whatever everyone is happy with.  My place is about half way between yours and Mendo's (you're in the eastern suburbs, right?). 

[Tax]

Duc et al, I am also happy to host the GA Ref vs JLTi Minimax phonostage shootout in Sydney.

My carts are in the 0.14mV to 0.3mV range.

We can use either a 12inch arm or 10inch arm.

Some red box Classic Records - Brubeck, Gounod, Coltrane and Sarah Vaughan amongst others can be used for comparisons.

Duc: you are welcome to stay at my place if you want to bring a phonostage with you and visit Sydney.

[Tasebass]

Superiority complex? Give me a break. Most "audiophiles" (certainly excluding the people here of course) have never even once heard a live unamplified performance. They simply have no way to tell what constitutes realism in musical performance.

 

 

Warren...

 

I spent many a year singing in a church choir in my youth.....listening to a many Pipe organ...

One of my Late Aunty's was a music teacher.She and my late Grandfather were both very accomplished pianist's 

I Remember quite vividly to this day both playing Chopin and a few others regularly on a Sunday night after service.

 

I have been to the Opera House a few times and great as it is the SQ is nothing to write home about IMO.

 

My musical tastes vary hugely and I think I know what "good' SQ is...

 

 

ATBTase.

[Tasebass]

WOW!!....

 

this is turning into a serous TT/phono stage event...... 

 

Lets make it over a weekend..???

 

ATBTase.

[Warren M.]

I should also point out that Marc has been itching to compare his standard MiniMax against the JLTi. It might not be the right time or place for it, but...

[ABG]

I can throw my poverty pack iFi iPhono into the mix for shits and giggles.  I'm yet to hear anything under the $1K mark that embarrasses it, but I haven't listened to all that many... 

[Warren M.]

Warren...

 

I spent many a year singing in a church choir in my youth.....listening to a many Pipe organ...

One of my Late Aunty's was a music teacher.She and my late Grandfather were both very accomplished pianist's 

I Remember quite vividly to this day both playing Chopin and a few others regularly on a Sunday night after service.

 

I have been to the Opera House a few times and great as it is the SQ is nothing to write home about IMO.

 

My musical tastes vary hugely and I think I know what "good' SQ is...

 

 

ATBTase.

What you are saying about the Opera House concert hall certainly used to be true. At least where I sit (centre stalls), the sound since the acoustic remodelling two years ago is very good indeed - not quite as good as the best halls (I've been in the Concertgebouw in Amsterdam which is really amazing), but definitely in a different class to where it used to be.

 

As for the Sydney Recital Hall, I can't fault it for small forces. I've never heard an orchestral concert in there, but piano recitals and string quartets are intimate and warm.

 

The concert hall in KL is really interesting - very modern and built using a lot of acoustic modelling. The result is musically exciting but somewhat unemotional. A bit like the difference between good digital and good analogue.

[Keith Anderson]

Thanks for all the suggestions, shame it's turned into mine better than yours crap. But it's given me a few to look at.

Good luck with your shootout.

One point though, if anyone thinks they can go to an acoustic concert and then think they can tell what an instrument should sound like is delusional. Every hall, chamber, studio will make that instrument sound different, I say this coming from 30 years of playing bass both electric and acoustic in studios, halls, open air concerts, pubs, clubs and everywhere in between.

[pulinap]

Thanks for all the suggestions, shame it's turned into mine better than yours crap.

 

That's what happen when one's ego is bigger than one's phonostage.......

[dwbasement]

I reckon this needs to be a blind fold shoot out otherwise it's no point.

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[lovetube]

I reckon this needs to be a blind fold shoot out otherwise it's no point.

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good idea.

it must be blind shoot out .

 

it won't happen anytime soon as i need finishing two , so one spare can go to NSW for your guys to listen . give me another month or so

 

Duc

[Happy]

I reckon this needs to be a blind fold shoot out otherwise it's no point.

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[Guest Muon]

I reckon this needs to be a blind fold shoot out otherwise it's no point.

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You mean blindfolded traveling to and from the event location?

 

Sorry, and I'll say no more lest we end up in another circular discussion :lol:

[Tasebass]

I reckon this needs to be a blind fold shoot out otherwise it's no point.

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I reckon this needs to be a whole load of FUN..........otherwise there is no point...

[Tax]

Thanks for all the suggestions, shame it's turned into mine better than yours crap. But it's given me a few to look at.

Good luck with your shootout.

One point though, if anyone thinks they can go to an acoustic concert and then think they can tell what an instrument should sound like is delusional. Every hall, chamber, studio will make that instrument sound different, I say this coming from 30 years of playing bass both electric and acoustic in studios, halls, open air concerts, pubs, clubs and everywhere in between.

Have read good things about the modified EAR 834P phono.

The Klyne phono is also very good for solid state

Good luck with your search.

[Guest Muon]

Have read good things about the modified EAR 834P phono.

The Klyne phono is also very good for solid state

Good luck with your search.

Not an EAR, but I have a scratch built phono using the modified circuit, you are referring to the Thorsten Loesch modified circuit?

 

I have jaspert to thank for making me aware of someone that was doing it overseas. Where is jaspert? haven't seen him here in ages

 

Edit: geez... a typo

Edited April 26, 2015 by ortofun

[Dared Audio]

Can we please have an upgraded Mini Max vs DUC GA tube phono preamp shootout in Melbourne. I will place an order for the winner of the night.

 

Happy to provide my best 845 Set amp for amplification.

 

Regards

 

Craig

[Tasebass]

Somehow @@catman needs to in on the shootout.....think He would have a field day....

 

ATBTase.

[Tax]

Not an EAR, but I have a scratch built phono using the modified circuit, you are referring to the Thorsten Loesch modified circuit?

 

I have jaspert to thank for making me aware of someone that was doing it overseas. Where is jaspert? haven't seen him here in ages

 

Edit: geez... a typo

Yes, the TL modified circuit. Could you please PM me a link to a copy?

Jasper T, has been relatively quite. Was travelling OS. Not sure what he is upto.

[Guest Muon]

Yes, the TL modified circuit. Could you please PM me a link to a copy?

Jasper T, has been relatively quite. Was travelling OS. Not sure what he is upto.

Cool, glad he is OK, never know what happens to folk...and a very nice guy Jasper is

 

PM incoming....shortly

[soundfan]

Cool, glad he is OK, never know what happens to folk...and a very nice guy Jasper is

PM incoming....shortly

I was in contact with Jasper recently too, but on another forum. As you said, a super nice guy, and I really miss his input here.

Sorry for being off topic.

Edited April 26, 2015 by soundfan

[Guest Muon]

I was in contact with Jasper recently too, but on another forum. As you said, a super nice guy, and I really miss his input here.

Sorry for being off topic.

my fault, I'm a bad influence

[Joe Rasmussen]

 

How do I contact Joe?

 

 

I am right here - Warren sent me an email alerting me to the musings going on here - I never thought I would get confused with Joe Riediger - that's a hoot. I am not sure how he would take it though?

 

Have to be careful what I say here - it seems my enthusiasm can get me into trouble and my efforts to educate (I am a teacher and historian by nature) can easily get misinterpreted. I may indeed even be a closet-socialist who believes that all money is evil (he says with a twinkle in his eyes), but in fact the accurate quote is that LOVE (not money itself) of money was the root of all evil. Probably still is.

 

Warren is right, I am very much occupied with Oppos theses days and also I have only done two Minimaxes and not hankering out to do more - if I am asked it will have to wait till I have a small break from my current 'day time' job.

 

BTW, I was never a business partner of Allen Wright - we just worked together for 34 years and indeed I even worked for him for a short while back in the 70's and we just continued to challenge each other in many ways and it was always based on trust. Miss the guy a lot - some of our road trips in Australia and Europe were highlights for me - the discussion could get very exotic at times and not just audio but more like the nature of the Universe and WHO was running it... the truth really is out there!

 

Interesting trivia: Where we met first time is now the actual Soundstage that the Star Wars movies were filmed on.

 

Cheers, Joe